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Started by irondeity, 09-04-2012

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Well gentlemen. Tom and I did some talking, since this little ARMA 2 stint has been playing the role of a vampire on the servers this is whats going to be done.
Crussaria. STALKER. Fallout. Supervisors and SA's, you will, in a very orderly and professional fashion, give me a minimum of TWO planned MAJOR events for your respective servers. And by major event, I mean crowd drawers, lengthy in time, a bare minimum time of 1 HOUR each, and that would make use of major factions (Duty/Freedom/Military/Monolith - BoS/Enclave/NCR) for the STALKER and Fallout servers. Crussaria has been on rough waters with various ideas, one of them needs implemented to draw some renewed interest, and it needs done soon.
There is a deadline for this, you all have a week and a half to have submissions in. I understand school/work is a very present reality this time of the year, but you all signed up for your positions, and youre going to do the job, or drop the job.

With regards from your CSV and RDA
  Tom & Iron Deity
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09-04-2012 #1 Last Edit: 09-04-2012 by ThY
With all respect, I protest - I don't feel like proving anything to anyone. Especialy with a deadline, we're not kids. Many of us feel the same way. Arma 2 SRP will die in a week or so, normality will be restored then. I do events whenever i'm on and you can verify this.  However, I will consider sorting out a major event in my own time and how I feel like it.                                                                                          - Your STALKER SV on protest, ThY.

I do agree with thy, It is pointless to put a quota on Events and it is only going to piss admins off what do you expect brand new fresh ideas from every admin? Well hate to tell yea but alot of us are not super creative also, An hour each some of us can barely think of events 30 minutes long, I suck at event's it's not a secret most the event's i've run/aided with were Ace's events.
~"Victory isn't sweet, Victory is the absence of the taste of fear and stench of death"


Quite frankly, you can go suck a fat one.

I'm doing what I can to support my respective server and do not need to prove this to you or anybody else.
If you should so desire to take disciplinary action on this feel free as you'll loose one of your few active SRP admins.

And as you're so concerned about all the servers you obviously haven't learned that Military is being made an event faction for a short while, Dark Scar is now an admin and we're also having a few faction shuffle rounds - Courtesy of myself.

Regards,
Blake

ref_DevCon.smd: david star is the only heir of the ecologist throne
ref_DevCon.smd: house of blake
"Any of you fucking pricks move, and I'll execute every motherfucking last one of ya!"

09-04-2012 #4 Last Edit: 09-04-2012 by Tom
WELL BLAKE, GOOSE, AND THY

We wouldn't be so upset/be doing this IF. . .

The servers had SOME activity. Hell, SRP server has been empty since. . . Friday or Saturday (I don't count 1-3 people on the server as "Populated")? Simply put, we wouldn't be upset if SOMEONE was doing SOMETHING on the server. EVERYONE playing ARMA II at once isn't good at all. Its not helping the servers, its not bringing new people in. End result? HGN looks pretty damn dead to be frank. FORP hasn't climbed above 8-10 when it usually has 14-16. Its actually suprissing that you guys are upset/suprised that people such as Silver and myself are upset with this sudden inactivity.

Are we being fun Nazis? No. You can play ARMA II. Just do SOMETHING on your servers during the week, even if its as small as being online for a little bit.

Saying "OH IT WILL DIE IN A WEEK" isn't going to make us look any less dead.
Quote from: TheAndyShandy on 05-12-2013
Oh boy.
Strap yourselves in, it's time for the great 'obligatory' SRP resurrection of 2013/14/15/16/22

I also dislike this notion of attempting to put pressure on admins.

Everyone here does a fine job as of now. FRP has enough going on at the moment and the admins help spur action when required or asked.

Personally, I have a lot on my plate, working about 9 hours a day, sleeping at most 7 hours. Right there is 16 hours. I have about 8 hours left in free time. I have to spend it hobby time(currently in the middle of a time consuming project), eating, being with my girl friend, Admin, and just relaxing time. The days I have off are spent outside my house when I can.

And as said, this Arma thing will die down soon when everyone gets it out of their system. Its a fun game, but hell I get bored of it in a week.

I also have a better chance at forming ideas for our servers by playing and doing other things. And trying to force us to crank out events that are suppose to be crowd pleasing is kinda hard. Especially when a single player manages to toss a monkey wrench into everything. It's time consuming for players an admins to put together events. And many times players have other things going in life or with their characters where they may not want any part in.


Why not instead of forcing us to pull events out of our asses as punsihment for playing another game together, you just ask us all to pitch into a server wide event for each server. Admins from SRP come to FRP to assist FRP admins to fill nameless mutants and soldier ranks, and FRP go over to SRP to assist those admins in Stalker events?

And as for the servers being dead during the week days, its common, when I get back from work, the servers are low populated, but weekend wise, it fills up.

As for FRP, there have been small events occuring on occasion, depending on who is on. NPC raid, crazy welder man, Cazador assault, mutant and ghoul infestation. We had a bit happen over the week. And for the most part, everyone had a good time.

This happens every other week, and threatening people is the exact opposite thing to do.

Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012

Are we being fun Nazis? No. You can play ARMA II. Just do SOMETHING on your servers during the week, even if its as small as being online for a little bit.

Do you imply I don't do this?

Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012
WELL BLAKE, GOOSE, AND THY

We wouldn't be so upset/be doing this IF. . .

The servers had SOME activity. Hell, SRP server has been empty since. . . Friday or Saturday (I don't count 1-3 people on the server as "Populated")? Simply put, we wouldn't be upset if SOMEONE was doing SOMETHING on the server. EVERYONE playing ARMA II at once isn't good at all. Its not helping the servers, its not bringing new people in. End result? HGN looks pretty damn dead to be frank. FORP hasn't climbed above 8-10 when it usually has 14-16. Its actually suprissing that you guys are upset/suprised that people such as Silver and myself are upset with this sudden inactivity.

Are we being fun Nazis? No. You can play ARMA II. Just do SOMETHING on your servers during the week, even if its as small as being online for a little bit.

Saying "OH IT WILL DIE IN A WEEK" isn't going to make us look any less dead.

Its all our faults that we've been under a Dos Attack for the last few days, we are sorry.

- The entire SRP admin team.

ref_DevCon.smd: david star is the only heir of the ecologist throne
ref_DevCon.smd: house of blake
"Any of you fucking pricks move, and I'll execute every motherfucking last one of ya!"

I've been spending alot of time on FRP as of late and frankly it's been getting to me... I haven't played Arma much yet seeing as how I just got it, but it's a nice little break for a day or so to help me keep my sanity... I feel this is probably how it is for pretty much everyone...
I wish for a pinball machine full of Cannabis.


Quote from: ThY on 09-04-2012
Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012

Are we being fun Nazis? No. You can play ARMA II. Just do SOMETHING on your servers during the week, even if its as small as being online for a little bit.

Do you imply I don't do this?

0/45 for everyday for 3-4 days is definitely not good.

And Plunger the servers may be like. . .

SRP 16/45
FORP 16/45
HL2RP 0/45
CRP 0/45

Or

At the least "Less Active"

Or

SRP 0-7/45
FORP 16-21/45
HL2RP 6-12/45
CRP 0/45

But for the past 3-4 days its been

0/45
0/45
0/45
0/45

Quote from: Longlostblake on 09-04-2012
Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012
WELL BLAKE, GOOSE, AND THY

We wouldn't be so upset/be doing this IF. . .

The servers had SOME activity. Hell, SRP server has been empty since. . . Friday or Saturday (I don't count 1-3 people on the server as "Populated")? Simply put, we wouldn't be upset if SOMEONE was doing SOMETHING on the server. EVERYONE playing ARMA II at once isn't good at all. Its not helping the servers, its not bringing new people in. End result? HGN looks pretty damn dead to be frank. FORP hasn't climbed above 8-10 when it usually has 14-16. Its actually suprissing that you guys are upset/suprised that people such as Silver and myself are upset with this sudden inactivity.

Are we being fun Nazis? No. You can play ARMA II. Just do SOMETHING on your servers during the week, even if its as small as being online for a little bit.

Saying "OH IT WILL DIE IN A WEEK" isn't going to make us look any less dead.

Its all our faults that we've been under a Dos Attack for the last few days, we are sorry.

- The entire SRP admin team.

>IMPLYING its been constant.
Quote from: TheAndyShandy on 05-12-2013
Oh boy.
Strap yourselves in, it's time for the great 'obligatory' SRP resurrection of 2013/14/15/16/22

Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012
Quote from: ThY on 09-04-2012
Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012

Are we being fun Nazis? No. You can play ARMA II. Just do SOMETHING on your servers during the week, even if its as small as being online for a little bit.

Do you imply I don't do this?

0/45 for everyday for 3-4 days is definitely not good.

And Plunger the servers may be like. . .

SRP 16/45
FORP 16/45
HL2RP 0/45
CRP 0/45

Or

At the least "Less Active"

Or

SRP 0-7/45
FORP 16-21/45
HL2RP 6-12/45
CRP 0/45

But for the past 3-4 days its been

0/45
0/45
0/45
0/45

Quote from: Longlostblake on 09-04-2012
Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012
WELL BLAKE, GOOSE, AND THY

We wouldn't be so upset/be doing this IF. . .

The servers had SOME activity. Hell, SRP server has been empty since. . . Friday or Saturday (I don't count 1-3 people on the server as "Populated")? Simply put, we wouldn't be upset if SOMEONE was doing SOMETHING on the server. EVERYONE playing ARMA II at once isn't good at all. Its not helping the servers, its not bringing new people in. End result? HGN looks pretty damn dead to be frank. FORP hasn't climbed above 8-10 when it usually has 14-16. Its actually suprissing that you guys are upset/suprised that people such as Silver and myself are upset with this sudden inactivity.

Are we being fun Nazis? No. You can play ARMA II. Just do SOMETHING on your servers during the week, even if its as small as being online for a little bit.

Saying "OH IT WILL DIE IN A WEEK" isn't going to make us look any less dead.

Its all our faults that we've been under a Dos Attack for the last few days, we are sorry.

- The entire SRP admin team.

>IMPLYING its been constant.

>IMPLYING people want to play inbetween Dos Attacks.

People play when they KNOW they're in the clear.

ref_DevCon.smd: david star is the only heir of the ecologist throne
ref_DevCon.smd: house of blake
"Any of you fucking pricks move, and I'll execute every motherfucking last one of ya!"

Quote from: Longlostblake on 09-04-2012
Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012
Quote from: ThY on 09-04-2012
Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012

Are we being fun Nazis? No. You can play ARMA II. Just do SOMETHING on your servers during the week, even if its as small as being online for a little bit.

Do you imply I don't do this?

0/45 for everyday for 3-4 days is definitely not good.

And Plunger the servers may be like. . .

SRP 16/45
FORP 16/45
HL2RP 0/45
CRP 0/45

Or

At the least "Less Active"

Or

SRP 0-7/45
FORP 16-21/45
HL2RP 6-12/45
CRP 0/45

But for the past 3-4 days its been

0/45
0/45
0/45
0/45

Quote from: Longlostblake on 09-04-2012
Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012
WELL BLAKE, GOOSE, AND THY

We wouldn't be so upset/be doing this IF. . .

The servers had SOME activity. Hell, SRP server has been empty since. . . Friday or Saturday (I don't count 1-3 people on the server as "Populated")? Simply put, we wouldn't be upset if SOMEONE was doing SOMETHING on the server. EVERYONE playing ARMA II at once isn't good at all. Its not helping the servers, its not bringing new people in. End result? HGN looks pretty damn dead to be frank. FORP hasn't climbed above 8-10 when it usually has 14-16. Its actually suprissing that you guys are upset/suprised that people such as Silver and myself are upset with this sudden inactivity.

Are we being fun Nazis? No. You can play ARMA II. Just do SOMETHING on your servers during the week, even if its as small as being online for a little bit.

Saying "OH IT WILL DIE IN A WEEK" isn't going to make us look any less dead.

Its all our faults that we've been under a Dos Attack for the last few days, we are sorry.

- The entire SRP admin team.

>IMPLYING its been constant.

>IMPLYING people want to play inbetween Dos Attacks.

People play when they KNOW they're in the clear.

Once again. . .

>IMPLYING it was constant (Which it wasn't)
Quote from: TheAndyShandy on 05-12-2013
Oh boy.
Strap yourselves in, it's time for the great 'obligatory' SRP resurrection of 2013/14/15/16/22

Quote from: Longlostblake on 09-04-2012
Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012
WELL BLAKE, GOOSE, AND THY

We wouldn't be so upset/be doing this IF. . .

The servers had SOME activity. Hell, SRP server has been empty since. . . Friday or Saturday (I don't count 1-3 people on the server as "Populated")? Simply put, we wouldn't be upset if SOMEONE was doing SOMETHING on the server. EVERYONE playing ARMA II at once isn't good at all. Its not helping the servers, its not bringing new people in. End result? HGN looks pretty damn dead to be frank. FORP hasn't climbed above 8-10 when it usually has 14-16. Its actually suprissing that you guys are upset/suprised that people such as Silver and myself are upset with this sudden inactivity.

Are we being fun Nazis? No. You can play ARMA II. Just do SOMETHING on your servers during the week, even if its as small as being online for a little bit.

Saying "OH IT WILL DIE IN A WEEK" isn't going to make us look any less dead.

Its all our faults that we've been under a Dos Attack for the last few days, we are sorry.

- The entire SRP admin team.

We do not get ddos'd constantly. They target us when our server has 10+ and if the filter is not on (Filters are temp and i have to request one) then it will be laggy\go down dependng on the rate of packets being sent.

If the filters on you won't notice a thing. The kids who attack our servers are doing it to have a laugh no doubt. Declaring that you cannot do your job because they hit us once in awhile is pathetic.

Quotebreslau: if i cant cheat i dont wanna play
breslau: period

On FRP, we got hit, server got fixed, hopped on, half the players returned. Hour later, again attacked, no players returned.

Should we beg for players to come back on?


What if they do and we get smacked again? Players get pissed off.




But this is more than just dos attacks.

09-04-2012 #15 Last Edit: 09-04-2012 by ThY
Quote from: ThY on 09-04-2012
Quote from: Tom on 09-04-2012

Are we being fun Nazis? No. You can play ARMA II. Just do SOMETHING on your servers during the week, even if its as small as being online for a little bit.

Do you imply I don't do this?
Please answer me this time. Plus what blake said is completely valid. DDosing IS a contributing factor

Edit; It's okay me and Tom SF'd

I didnt ask for anything other than event proposals. Keep it on track, dont argue with it, be mature and get it done. Thank you.
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Yeah this isn't happening in the next week and a half I have too much work. Did it occur to anyone that perhaps everyone else ALSO has a shit ton of work and can't get on?

That concern was given view. If given say 5 to 10 minutes in free time over a week and a half, which is a whole roughly 55 minutes grand total at the end, to collaberate ideas, you'll be perfectly fine. I see no room for excuses at this point. Except laziness. Nowhere above is it mentioned "This must be done every week and a half.", also. I mentioned SA's and SV's. So, if each respective team works together, key word TEAM, then this is really a very trivial assignment. So stop giving Tom and I excuses, and just get it done.
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FINAL UPDATE


Me and Iron have talked about his act, following the admin protest on the matter, and an agreement has been made.
As a consequence, the original act has been removed, and instead specific server supervisors are responsible for their servers
activity during the next weeks. There must be an improvement in activity or admins letting their team down will be removed.
Server supervisors can bring up the names of admins in their team who they are concerned about to Tom or IronDeity, where a
brief investigation will begin which decides the admins future with their position.


Quote from: ThY on 09-04-2012
FINAL UPDATE


Me and Iron have talked about his act, following the admin protest on the matter, and an agreement has been made.
As a consequence, the original act has been removed, and instead specific server supervisors are responsible for their servers
activity during the next weeks. There must be an improvement in activity or admins letting their team down will be removed.
Server supervisors can bring up the names of admins in their team who they are concerned about to Tom or IronDeity, where a
brief investigation will begin which decides the admins future with their position.


That's fine by me. I'm getting burnt out with ArmA II anyway. All I do is run around collecting guns and never shooting anyone if in STALKER, or playing boring old zombies and getting lost in the Eastern European wilderness. No one wants to shoot stuff that shoots back. It's lame. Though FORP has done okay despite my absence, it's time I went back.

So shall I lock the thread? Unless anyone has any additional, hopefully respectful comments to make.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 09-04-2012
Quote from: ThY on 09-04-2012
FINAL UPDATE


Me and Iron have talked about his act, following the admin protest on the matter, and an agreement has been made.
As a consequence, the original act has been removed, and instead specific server supervisors are responsible for their servers
activity during the next weeks. There must be an improvement in activity or admins letting their team down will be removed.
Server supervisors can bring up the names of admins in their team who they are concerned about to Tom or IronDeity, where a
brief investigation will begin which decides the admins future with their position.


That's fine by me. I'm getting burnt out with ArmA II anyway. All I do is run around collecting guns and never shooting anyone if in STALKER, or playing boring old zombies and getting lost in the Eastern European wilderness. No one wants to shoot stuff that shoots back. It's lame. Though FORP has done okay despite my absence, it's time I went back.

So shall I lock the thread? Unless anyone has any additional, hopefully respectful comments to make.
Please lock it mate (: