Website\Forums Development\Discussion Thread

Started by Silver Knight, 19-08-2012

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Silver Knight

Feel free to discuss the website\Forums here. I will ocassionally post updates that may interest people.

Quotebreslau: if i cant cheat i dont wanna play
breslau: period

Silver Knight

#1
+Added shadow effect on the main boards.
+Tuned up and styled the navigation menu to suit the former frontpage style.
+Made posts that you have read turn a gray text until a new post, the background also goes to the lighter transparent style. I would change the link color however i am unable to find the extract in the stylesheet to do so. Maybe i will code it myself later maybe.
+Added option to minimise the shoutbox.

Quotebreslau: if i cant cheat i dont wanna play
breslau: period

Frostee

#2
Add more fun/sensible moderators. I am not trying to troll, but it just seems some of the moderators do not have a sense of humor when it comes to certain things. Some moderators can't take a joke and just give someone a warning if that person was joking. And apparently if you troll in the GVC you can get a warning for offending someone, in the Gay Vampire Castle (IE: http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/the-gay-vamp-castle/pony-thread-simulator-v9999999-90145tgvsdadf/msg175064/#msg175064 Spartans and Kropfi got warnings in this GVC thread). All I am trying to say is, have a sense of humor people, like seriously.

Spades_Neil

Quote from: Frostee on 19-08-2012
Add more fun/sensible moderators. I am not trying to troll it just seems some of the moderators do not have a sense of humor when it comes to certain things. Some moderators can't take a joke and just give someone a warning if that person was joking. And apparently if you troll in the GVC you can get a warning for offending someone, in the Gay Vampire Castle (IE: http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/the-gay-vamp-castle/pony-thread-simulator-v9999999-90145tgvsdadf/msg175064/#msg175064 Spartans and Kropfi got warnings in this GVC thread). All I am trying to say is, have a sense of humor people, like seriously.

There are rules for the GVC, but not many. No personal attacks, no racism, no porn, and no spamming autoplay (this rule isn't even enforced in some threads) and no all caps in your title. Other than that it's pretty much a free for all. People keep getting in trouble I've noticed for stuff even I would have ignored and laughed along to.

Silver Knight

Quote from: Frostee on 19-08-2012
Add more fun/sensible moderators. I am not trying to troll, but it just seems some of the moderators do not have a sense of humor when it comes to certain things. Some moderators can't take a joke and just give someone a warning if that person was joking. And apparently if you troll in the GVC you can get a warning for offending someone, in the Gay Vampire Castle (IE: http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/the-gay-vamp-castle/pony-thread-simulator-v9999999-90145tgvsdadf/msg175064/#msg175064 Spartans and Kropfi got warnings in this GVC thread). All I am trying to say is, have a sense of humor people, like seriously.

Rules:

Threads should not be all capitals. Trolling, spam* and other bullshit is allowed here, although any personal direct conflictations is punishable, along with Porn/18+ images or moderate racism.

Quotebreslau: if i cant cheat i dont wanna play
breslau: period

SGT-Spartans

I don't see the confrontation. I mean, if its that hard to spot obvious sarcasm perhaps you should close the GVC.
SRP chars:
Vasilli 'Vasoline' Nikolaev - Freedom - Alive
Aleksey Ipanov - Spooky Trenchcoat Man - Alive
'Pale' - Bloodsucker - Alive


Spades_Neil

#6
Quote from: SGT-Spartans on 19-08-2012
I don't see the confrontation. I mean, if its that hard to spot obvious sarcasm perhaps you should close the GVC.

Yep.

Bare with me, for I am about to do something that looks like trolling. I'm being completely serious with what I am about to say. When you mix the drama and aspergers that comes naturally with roleplaying, and the mingebags and more aspergers that comes with Garry's Mod, then you give them something like the GVC or 4chan where few if any rules are enforced, nothing but bad comes out of it. Just a big cesspool of drama hormone-laced teens, screaming children, and aspergers who don't always understand humor.

Even when the rules are enforced, everyone bitches about it.
Then admins have to step on eggshells to make people not bitch, but then people get insulted and huge shitstorm occurs and makes HGN look like a bad place.
Then the admins have to do something about it and pay more attention. Then everyone bitches about it some more because OMG ADMIN ABOOSE. BAN NAZIS. TAKE A JOKE FFS.
Then you find out every now and then some ass wasn't joking when he posted some kid's Facebook or address or secret porn collection of weird futa adult baby bondage bbw furry brony shit.

It's just a big mess. The GVC is impossible to moderate. If you can deal with the stupidity it causes (or you don't care) and feel that the amusement it gives outweighs its consequences, then keep it. If not, get rid of it. I can't say whether it does more harm than good, but it seems to be that place people go when they don't give a shit about HGN at all anymore.

Knife_cz

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 19-08-2012
Quote from: SGT-Spartans on 19-08-2012
I don't see the confrontation. I mean, if its that hard to spot obvious sarcasm perhaps you should close the GVC.

Yep.

Bare with me, for I am about to do something that looks like trolling. I'm being completely serious with what I am about to say. When you mix the drama and aspergers that comes naturally with roleplaying, and the mingebags and more aspergers that comes with Garry's Mod, then you give them something like the GVC or 4chan where few if any rules are enforced, nothing but bad comes out of it. Just a big cesspool of drama hormone-laced teens, screaming children, and aspergers who don't always understand humor.

Even when the rules are enforced, everyone bitches about it.
Then admins have to step on eggshells to make people not bitch, but then people get insulted and huge shitstorm occurs and makes HGN look like a bad place.
Then the admins have to do something about it and pay more attention. Then everyone bitches about it some more because OMG ADMIN ABOOSE. BAN NAZIS. TAKE A JOKE FFS.
Then you find out every now and then some ass wasn't joking when he posted some kid's Facebook or address or secret porn collection of weird futa adult baby bondage bbw furry brony shit.

It's just a big mess. The GVC is impossible to moderate.

How about some new rules for GVC?
For example, let GVC completly without rules, or any overseeing. Just a few rules, like 'No screamers, if you want to post +18 thread, write (NSFW) Infront of the Thread name.' That would work I think.


SGT-Spartans

#8
And if it is really that bad and a stain on the community, you could perhaps make it like OIFY, and have a special URL for it only.




Or just hide it like that abortion you had as a teenager.




EDIT: Didn't realize Garry went soft core and made OIFY visible.
SRP chars:
Vasilli 'Vasoline' Nikolaev - Freedom - Alive
Aleksey Ipanov - Spooky Trenchcoat Man - Alive
'Pale' - Bloodsucker - Alive


Spades_Neil

Quote from: knife_cz on 19-08-2012
How about some new rules for GVC?
For example, let GVC completly without rules, or any overseeing. Just a few rules, like 'No screamers, if you want to post +18 thread, write (NSFW) Infront of the Thread name.' That would work I think.

No, because then that opens up all kinds of shit with people and groups attacking each other. It'll just start to escalate and next thing you know HGN is ripped apart and dead because everyone hates everyone. Like, worse than before.

I think there should just be a rule for the administration if anything. Perhaps a PSA about what is a joke, and what isn't a joke.

Frostee

Quote from: knife_cz on 19-08-2012
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 19-08-2012
Quote from: SGT-Spartans on 19-08-2012
I don't see the confrontation. I mean, if its that hard to spot obvious sarcasm perhaps you should close the GVC.

Yep.

Bare with me, for I am about to do something that looks like trolling. I'm being completely serious with what I am about to say. When you mix the drama and aspergers that comes naturally with roleplaying, and the mingebags and more aspergers that comes with Garry's Mod, then you give them something like the GVC or 4chan where few if any rules are enforced, nothing but bad comes out of it. Just a big cesspool of drama hormone-laced teens, screaming children, and aspergers who don't always understand humor.

Even when the rules are enforced, everyone bitches about it.
Then admins have to step on eggshells to make people not bitch, but then people get insulted and huge shitstorm occurs and makes HGN look like a bad place.
Then the admins have to do something about it and pay more attention. Then everyone bitches about it some more because OMG ADMIN ABOOSE. BAN NAZIS. TAKE A JOKE FFS.
Then you find out every now and then some ass wasn't joking when he posted some kid's Facebook or address or secret porn collection of weird futa adult baby bondage bbw furry brony shit.

It's just a big mess. The GVC is impossible to moderate.

How about some new rules for GVC?
For example, let GVC completly without rules, or any overseeing. Just a few rules, like 'No screamers, if you want to post +18 thread, write (NSFW) Infront of the Thread name.' That would work I think.

This. And maybe something about no high level racist jokes.

Spades_Neil

Quote from: Frostee on 19-08-2012
And maybe something about no high level racist jokes.

To be honest I think it's silly that all racism no matter how mild is banned in the GVC. It's one thing if you're going around explicitly dehumanizing a race/religion out of hate, but it's a completely different story if you're fucking kidding around. Anyone who gets butthurt about it needs to grow up.

Unless a thread's purpose is dedicated to hardcore racism (or it gets hijacked like this), it's stupid to get mad about it. Let's just leave it at that.

SGT-Spartans

So lets sum it up, Silverknight you need to provide a GVC reform that all members can agree on.






Also, back on topic, a kudos/reputation system would be cool.
SRP chars:
Vasilli 'Vasoline' Nikolaev - Freedom - Alive
Aleksey Ipanov - Spooky Trenchcoat Man - Alive
'Pale' - Bloodsucker - Alive


Spades_Neil

Quote from: SGT-Spartans on 19-08-2012
Also, back on topic, a kudos/reputation system would be cool REALLY REALLY good to have.

Khorn

Why not rid the forum of anything but GVC, considering it is basically the only place people post anymore.


Even though it's a disgrace of place, doesn't even come close to the OIFY.

SGT-Spartans

I was just saying, hide it like OIFY, not that it is like OIFY.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 19-08-2012


Quote from: SGT-Spartans on 19-08-2012
Also, back on topic, a kudos/reputation system would be cool REALLY REALLY good to have. is necessary implement it now we want it now
SRP chars:
Vasilli 'Vasoline' Nikolaev - Freedom - Alive
Aleksey Ipanov - Spooky Trenchcoat Man - Alive
'Pale' - Bloodsucker - Alive


Syndraell

Quote from: knife_cz on 19-08-2012
How about some new rules for GVC?
For example, let GVC completly without rules, or any overseeing. Just a few rules, like 'No screamers, if you want to post +18 thread, write (NSFW) Infront of the Thread name.' That would work I think.

As much as people enjoy porn, I highly think this is a terrible idea. If they want porn, they can go to the other millions of websites/forums that have porn.

Also, GVC should just have an Anonymous post system.
Can't stand the heat in GVC, or too crazy for you? Then man the fuck up, or go elsewhere.

The reason I say the above comment is because of all the "cyber-bullying" bullshit.
I think it's screwed up that the only reason this shit started was because of emotionally distressed kids going to some fucked up sites that ridiculed them, and in turn made them kill themselves/bitch and whine about it to their parents.

Quote from: SilverKnight on 19-08-2012
+Added shadow effect on the main boards.
+Tuned up and styled the navigation menu to suit the former frontpage style.
+Made posts that you have read turn a gray text until a new post, the background also goes to the lighter transparent style. I would change the link color however i am unable to find the extract in the stylesheet to do so. Maybe i will code it myself later maybe.
+Added option to minimise the shoutbox.


Nice work. Only question i'd like to ask is whatever happen to that one Server based game? I don't remember the name but it was mainly wall of text, pictures, and map. I thought it was interesting, but could've used an upgrade.

I'm just waiting to mess up your day. Honest.

Silver Knight

Quote from: James Almasy on 19-08-2012
Nice work. Only question i'd like to ask is whatever happen to that one Server based game? I don't remember the name but it was mainly wall of text, pictures, and map. I thought it was interesting, but could've used an upgrade.

You mean the Crussaria RPG game we had on the forums. I got rid of it so the forums were faster and i didn't feel like updating it at that point in time. Maybe ill revive it in the future.

Quotebreslau: if i cant cheat i dont wanna play
breslau: period

Khorn

Yea, after killing Silver while he was offline, the Text RPG got kinda boring.


Beating the end game boss while it sleeps is no fun.

Silver Knight

Quote from: Khorn on 19-08-2012
Yea, after killing Silver while he was offline, the Text RPG got kinda boring.


Beating the end game boss while it sleeps is no fun.

I was dead every time i logged on..

Quotebreslau: if i cant cheat i dont wanna play
breslau: period

SGT-Spartans

#20
I'm not sure if the forums script supports this, but Character sheets and a GM position for threads. Calfori's script supports that, and it allows you to have character sheets and dice you can roll to test an RP situation.


EDIT: Can you make the mapping section bigger? It doesn't seem like anyone goes there. I posted a request for some pictures of Suez Canal, and nobody posted. I also think the forum should support more creativity and productivity.


EDIT: Pic
SRP chars:
Vasilli 'Vasoline' Nikolaev - Freedom - Alive
Aleksey Ipanov - Spooky Trenchcoat Man - Alive
'Pale' - Bloodsucker - Alive


jaik

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Blake.H: He's nice
Blake.H: He doesn't moan
Blake.H: The sheer obedience is enough to fuel my erection anyway

Syndraell

Quote from: SilverKnight on 19-08-2012
Quote from: James Almasy on 19-08-2012
Nice work. Only question i'd like to ask is whatever happen to that one Server based game? I don't remember the name but it was mainly wall of text, pictures, and map. I thought it was interesting, but could've used an upgrade.

You mean the Crussaria RPG game we had on the forums. I got rid of it so the forums were faster and i didn't feel like updating it at that point in time. Maybe ill revive it in the future.

I revived you once for the hell of it. It's still a neat idea.

I'm just waiting to mess up your day. Honest.

Silver Knight

Quote from: SGT-Spartans on 19-08-2012
I'm not sure if the forums script supports this, but Character sheets and a GM position for threads. Calfori's script supports that, and it allows you to have character sheets and dice you can roll to test an RP situation.


EDIT: Can you make the mapping section bigger? It doesn't seem like anyone goes there. I posted a request for some pictures of Suez Canal, and nobody posted. I also think the forum should support more creativity and productivity.


EDIT: Pic

Not sure exactly what your getting at with the first statement but to the second one i have merged it with hgn development. Although alas it further hides the mapping section.

Quotebreslau: if i cant cheat i dont wanna play
breslau: period

Bl★ck Star

I likew the new design, the blue glow looks awesome