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Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Syndraell on 16-09-2014
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/servers/pc-servers/survival-servers/2217083-hypergaming-network-roleplay-servers

http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?threads/hypergamer-network-roleplay-servers.84404/

http://www.terrariaonline.com/threads/hypergaming-network-roleplay-servers.165812/

If we wanna get a good player-base back, we need to leave the bomb shelter and look about.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: the_grub on 16-09-2014
You can't open the vault doors! You'll kill us all!
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Syndraell on 16-09-2014
Quote from: the_grub on 16-09-2014
You can't open the vault doors! You'll kill us all!

How Ironic that people said the same thing when closing the vault doors.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: jaik on 16-09-2014
Most of the time this doesn't net more than a few lost travelers who promptly forget that we exist. Communities grow through points of interests and word of mouth, and we have exhausted both of those options already.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Silver Knight on 16-09-2014
You forget that you also need to make youtube videos to advertise the server. Perhaps make a moddb page for the servers as that's a good way to attract potential players, there's also posting on other communities forums, posting in the steam-server discussion boards for each game to advertise.

There's loads of ways.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Syndraell on 16-09-2014
Quote from: SilverKnight on 16-09-2014
You forget that you also need to make youtube videos to advertise the server. Perhaps make a moddb page for the servers as that's a good way to attract potential players, there's also posting on other communities forums, posting in the steam-server discussion boards for each game to advertise.

There's loads of ways.

Not sure about the moddb thing, I have expressed at least a 2 minute showoff of the servers in a Video, but i've never made one.

Going to notify on the respective Steam server boards. And I'm not just promoting Terraria/Iseyu. I'm going to try to sell the brand instead of the product.

Which means I'm attempting to promote HGN as a whole. Any suggestions or even revisions would be a great help.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: jaik on 16-09-2014
Subjugate the populations of neighboring communities and spread our faith.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Cross on 16-09-2014
Am I the only one who sees a problem with advertising when we require applications?
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Knife_cz on 16-09-2014
Let's advertise on
[spoiler]Reddit[/spoiler]
And/or
[spoiler]4chin[/spoiler]

Pretty good non-toxic places that would surely attract alot of mature people into our ranks!

Also alot of people think that our S.T.A.L.K.E.R server is just a S.T.A.L.K.E.R server. They're not even aware of it being Garrysmod.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Syndraell on 16-09-2014
Quote from: Jake on 16-09-2014
Subjugate the populations of neighboring communities and spread our faith.

That may work, but it may also backfire on people doing the same to us instead.

Quote from: gcat64 on 16-09-2014
Am I the only one who sees a problem with advertising when we require applications?

Nope. I just suck at adverts. But I am trying.

Quote from: Knife_cz on 16-09-2014
Let's advertise on
[spoiler]Reddit[/spoiler]
And/or
[spoiler]4chin[/spoiler]

Pretty good non-toxic places that would surely attract alot of mature people into our ranks!

No, and Fuck No.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: jaik on 16-09-2014
Quote from: gcat64 on 16-09-2014
Am I the only one who sees a problem with advertising when we require applications?

Some measure of standard is required in case of Terraria because of the myriad of retarded kids around the game, even if I don't really support whitelist-systems. A lot of people can actually just look at the application form, shrug and leave, and they could be decent roleplayers.

Quote from: Knife_cz on 16-09-2014
Let's advertise on
[spoiler]Reddit[/spoiler]
And/or
[spoiler]4chin[/spoiler]

Pretty good non-toxic places that would surely attract alot of mature people into our ranks!

Also alot of people think that our S.T.A.L.K.E.R server is just a S.T.A.L.K.E.R server. They're not even aware of it being Garrysmod.

We have given up on SRP completely, so let's not even go there.

(https://forums.hypergamer.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIVyOeDg.png&hash=f6861d3e316342ea4728df41ed8b6085d92181d4)

These are the stats for SRP. As you can see, the peak of this resurrection was 5 players when I made an event, and even getting those people (Kieck, Knife, Szenti and his friend, and me) was a struggle. Not because of lack of free time or school or whatever, but because nobody cares anymore. Even if we had the best script in the world nobody would bother. A new image and name is required and obviously that is not happening with HGN.

Other than that, the idea itself isn't bad. Much better than advertising on Facepunch, for example. You can give it a shot yourself, but it won't bear much fruit since we have nothing to keep the new blood occupied with.

Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Knife_cz on 16-09-2014
Quote from: Jake on 16-09-2014
Quote from: gcat64 on 16-09-2014
Am I the only one who sees a problem with advertising when we require applications?

Some measure of standard is required in case of Terraria because of the myriad of retarded kids around the game, even if I don't really support whitelist-systems. A lot of people can actually just look at the application form, shrug and leave, and they could be decent roleplayers.

Quote from: Knife_cz on 16-09-2014
Let's advertise on
[spoiler]Reddit[/spoiler]
And/or
[spoiler]4chin[/spoiler]

Pretty good non-toxic places that would surely attract alot of mature people into our ranks!

Also alot of people think that our S.T.A.L.K.E.R server is just a S.T.A.L.K.E.R server. They're not even aware of it being Garrysmod.

We have given up on SRP completely, so let's not even go there.

(https://forums.hypergamer.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIVyOeDg.png&hash=f6861d3e316342ea4728df41ed8b6085d92181d4)

These are the stats for SRP. As you can see, the peak of this resurrection was 5 players when I made an event, and even getting those people (Kieck, Knife, Szenti and his friend, and me) was a struggle. Not because of lack of free time or school or whatever, but because nobody cares anymore. Even if we had the best script in the world nobody would bother. A new image and name is required and obviously that is not happening with HGN.

Other than that, the idea itself isn't bad. Much better than advertising on Facepunch, for example. You can give it a shot yourself, but it won't bear much fruit since we have nothing to keep the new blood occupied with.


There are still players on the other SRP communities, on the shit ones.
I pity them for never experiencing good roleplay, but just their garbage tier with their 12 years old admins, Exos that can't be penetrated even by bazooka and horrible quality overall.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: jaik on 16-09-2014
Quote from: Knife_cz on 16-09-2014
There are still players on the other SRP communities, on the shit ones.
I pity them for never experiencing good roleplay, but just their garbage tier with their 12 years old admins, Exos that can't be penetrated even by bazooka and horrible quality overall.

As I said, HGN is simply exhausted as a community. Nobody is motivated to do anything, there's no sense of communal responsibility and as many would simply say -- it's just not the same anymore. Ask anyone who used to play, and their answers will always come down to that unexplainable missing component that has been forever lost. Strangely enough you can see it on older screenshots.

No matter how logical and experienced we are, it won't substitute for the social aspect that actually makes roleplaying fun and which, honestly, has little to do with rationale.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Knife_cz on 17-09-2014
Quote from: Jake on 16-09-2014
Quote from: Knife_cz on 16-09-2014
There are still players on the other SRP communities, on the shit ones.
I pity them for never experiencing good roleplay, but just their garbage tier with their 12 years old admins, Exos that can't be penetrated even by bazooka and horrible quality overall.

As I said, HGN is simply exhausted as a community. Nobody is motivated to do anything, there's no sense of communal responsibility and as many would simply say -- it's just not the same anymore. Ask anyone who used to play, and their answers will always come down to that unexplainable missing component that has been forever lost. Strangely enough you can see it on older screenshots.

No matter how logical and experienced we are, it won't substitute for the social aspect that actually makes roleplaying fun and which, honestly, has little to do with rationale.
That being said; the question arises once again.
Where do we go from here?
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: jaik on 17-09-2014
Quote from: Knife_cz on 17-09-2014
Where do we go from here?

Anywhere. No, really, if you can find someone actually willing to dedicate themselves to HGN, then they're welcome to do whatever. It's just that it's much simpler to make a new community for that.

And don't get me wrong, we aren't desperate, it's been this way for a good two years and I think Silver's better off without having to deal with irrelevant server issues he was not supposed to get involved in, and it always causes interpersonal problems, eventually leading to the disunity we have now.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Syndraell on 18-09-2014
Alright, slapped the Iseyu server on every server list (that I know of) as well.

Still considering the Video thing... I've got my ideas... But no gameplay footage.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Zen on 18-09-2014
If people are so concerned about getting the community repopulated, then why not just make servers which relate to popular gamemodes being played on Garrysmod currently. Such as TTT, murder, prophunt and other creations which attract a certain kind of population. I can think of a couple of problems with this, mainly the type of players that we will get and if that turns true then it'll be a miracle if they are interested in roleplay at all. Perhaps all I am saying is HGN needs a re-branding if it wants to become succesful again.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Syndraell on 18-09-2014
Quote from: Zen on 18-09-2014
If people are so concerned about getting the community repopulated, then why not just make servers which relate to popular gamemodes being played on Garrysmod currently. Such as TTT, murder, prophunt and other creations which attract a certain kind of population. I can think of a couple of problems with this, mainly the type of players that we will get and if that turns true then it'll be a miracle if they are interested in roleplay at all. Perhaps all I am saying is HGN needs a re-branding if it wants to become succesful again.

Do it, i'd say.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Knife_cz on 18-09-2014
Quote from: Zen on 18-09-2014
If people are so concerned about getting the community repopulated, then why not just make servers which relate to popular gamemodes being played on Garrysmod currently. Such as TTT, murder, prophunt and other creations which attract a certain kind of population. I can think of a couple of problems with this, mainly the type of players that we will get and if that turns true then it'll be a miracle if they are interested in roleplay at all. Perhaps all I am saying is HGN needs a re-branding if it wants to become succesful again.
Heh, might aswell advert on that Reddit if we want such people in here.

I mean hell I've been on TTT two weeks ago and there was some 14 years old furry admin, and squeakers yelling into microphone. It was truly an awful experience.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Syndraell on 18-09-2014
Quote from: Knife_cz on 18-09-2014
Heh, might aswell advert on that Reddit if we want such people in here.

I mean hell I've been on TTT two weeks ago and there was some 14 years old furry admin, and squeakers yelling into microphone. It was truly an awful experience.

if nothing happens in the next month... I might just consider it.
Just as kind of a 'Fuck it' gesture.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: jaik on 18-09-2014
Quote from: Zen on 18-09-2014
Perhaps all I am saying is HGN needs a re-branding if it wants to become succesful again.

Obviously a name-change and a new theme would probably be best to get more players, since that means starting afresh, but...

This isn't happening. HGN's keeping its identity and this isn't up for discussion.
Title: Promoting HGN Servers.
Post by: Silver Knight on 21-09-2014
@James Almasy - http://terraria-server-list.com/server/1740/

Needs updating.