EU:Software licenses are yours, and you have the legal right to re-sell them.

Started by Silver Knight, 03-07-2012

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Silver Knight

 A recent ruling by the Court of Justice of the European Union has officially stated that "an author of software cannot oppose the resale of his 'used' licences allowing the use of his programs downloaded from the internet"

In essence, it is now illegal in Europe for companies to try to stop you from selling your used digitally distributed software.

As for what qualifies as "used"?  Well, the ruling pretty much covers that as well:

The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a licence is exhausted on its first sale.

Not to ignore the elephant in the room, this obviously flies in the face of EULAs signed by end-users on their part agreeing that they would not take part in exactly this.  However, repeated precedent has shown that EULAs hold no water against actual laws.  For if you agree to an EULA that is contradictory to European law,  that point of the EULA is void.

"Therefore, even if the licence agreement prohibits a further transfer, the rightholder can no longer oppose the resale of that copy. "

"Therefore the new acquirer of the user licence, such as a customer of UsedSoft, may, as a lawful acquirer of the corrected and updated copy of the computer program concerned, download that copy from the copyright holder's website." 

Source =
http://www.lo-ping.org/2012/07/03/eu-court-ruling-allows-for-re-sale-of-used-games-by-end-users-you/
Legal paper =
http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/d...cp120094en.pdf

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breslau: period

Ragolution


Silver Knight


Quotebreslau: if i cant cheat i dont wanna play
breslau: period

Ragolution

Quote from: Last.Exile on 03-07-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 03-07-2012
And people say America's retarded.

Problem? This is good news.

This is good news for pirates.
People now have license (pun) to bootleg.

Recreas

Quote from: Ragolution on 03-07-2012
Quote from: Last.Exile on 03-07-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 03-07-2012
And people say America's retarded.

Problem? This is good news.

This is good news for pirates.
People now have license (pun) to bootleg.

It''s good news for everyone, not just for pirates.
It means that Europe isn't as retarded as the U.S and
tried to limit people.
Atleast we don't see Europe taking down sites like Megaupload,
besides if Companies really didn't want their protection to be pirated they would've
long fixed it by putting some high-tech protection program on it.
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lolKieck

HOLY SHIT Megaupload was taken down because of ACTUAL illegal actions, like money laundering and shit! Why you people still think it was just because there were people using megaupload for pirating.
Not to mention games DO NOT need armor, and DRM will ALWAYS be cracked, no matter how high-tech it'll be.
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Bash me up, but I don't understand a single word in the First Post.


Silver Knight

Quote from: lolKieck on 04-07-2012
HOLY SHIT Megaupload was taken down because of ACTUAL illegal actions, like money laundering and shit! Why you people still think it was just because there were people using megaupload for pirating.
Not to mention games DO NOT need armor, and DRM will ALWAYS be cracked, no matter how high-tech it'll be.

How is that even affliated with that? Besides the us provided no evidence against megaupload, it was most likely just some anti-piracy groups lobbying to get it killed.

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breslau: period

Ragolution

We're already off-topic.

EU is dumb.

This just shows how they're slowly descending into socialism. Especially Britain.

ThY

Quote from: Ragolution on 04-07-2012
We're already off-topic.

EU is dumb.

This just shows how they're slowly descending into socialism. Especially Britain.
You obviously don't know the relationship between the EU and Britain, we're going far, far from socialism. - just look at our government!

Spades_Neil

Quote from: Ragolution on 04-07-2012
We're already off-topic.

EU is dumb.

This just shows how they're slowly descending into socialism. Especially Britain.

Someone reported your post. Not sure if trolling or just really misguided on what you're talking about. I'm just gonna leave it alone, though.

Ragolution

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 04-07-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 04-07-2012
We're already off-topic.

EU is dumb.

This just shows how they're slowly descending into socialism. Especially Britain.

Someone reported your post. Not sure if trolling or just really misguided on what you're talking about. I'm just gonna leave it alone, though.

Someone reported my half-troll post?

The only troll in there was "Especially Britain".

I was steering the thread back on-topic, sue me for having the ulterior motive of rustling some jimmies.

Spades_Neil

Quote from: Ragolution on 04-07-2012
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 04-07-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 04-07-2012
We're already off-topic.

EU is dumb.

This just shows how they're slowly descending into socialism. Especially Britain.

Someone reported your post. Not sure if trolling or just really misguided on what you're talking about. I'm just gonna leave it alone, though.

Someone reported my half-troll post?

The only troll in there was "Especially Britain".

I was steering the thread back on-topic, sue me for having the ulterior motive of rustling some jimmies.

It's okay. I lol'd. Carry on.

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meetdadoom

Quote from: lolKieck on 04-07-2012
HOLY SHIT Megaupload was taken down because of ACTUAL illegal actions, like money laundering and shit! Why you people still think it was just because there were people using megaupload for pirating.
Not to mention games DO NOT need armor, and DRM will ALWAYS be cracked, no matter how high-tech it'll be.
This, mega upload wasn't held responsible for endorsing pirating.

Quote from: Ragolution on 04-07-2012
We're already off-topic.

EU is dumb.

This just shows how they're slowly descending into socialism. Especially Britain.

and we are falling into the early 1900s again...except reversed. Recent rise of facism in Eastern Europe and acceptance of socialism in the west.

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Bl★ck Star

COULD SOMEONE EXPLAIN ME WHAT THIS THREAD IS TRYING TO GIVE US NEWS ABOUT ?!


Spades_Neil

Quote from: meetdadoom on 07-07-2012
and we are falling into the early 1900s again...except reversed. Recent rise of facism in Eastern Europe and acceptance of socialism in the west.

>Socialism

lol, you're kidding right?

Tom

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Fuck it, I'm back out.
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Quote from: meetdadoom on 07-07-2012
Recent rise of facism in Eastern Europe and acceptance of socialism in the west.

Eastern Europe is part of the Western culture, at least most of it is. What do you even mean by that and what proof/evidence do you have to back that up?
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Quote from: Jake on 08-07-2012
Quote from: meetdadoom on 07-07-2012
Recent rise of facism in Eastern Europe and acceptance of socialism in the west.

Eastern Europe is part of the Western culture, at least most of it is. What do you even mean by that and what proof/evidence do you have to back that up?
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