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Question: Why do you Play Caphori?
Option 1: Roleplay+Character development votes: 11
Option 2: Gear+Items votes: 2
Option 3: Something to do in my spare time votes: 1
Title: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Syndraell on 28-09-2012
Is a true reset.
I say this because Caphori is currently dead. And the way it currently is is further killing it. We really need to plan this all out; for i would like to go all the way back to square one. Caphori: the way it was before, and it should be.

I'm going to start firing off suggestions, and hope that that they will recreate Caphori as the way it was meant to be. I appreciate any comments/suggestions/criticism!

Alright, here goes.


Abolishing the RPR rating, it's useless.

Enforcement of the "No reckless mining" rule (Violators will be forced to fix their own mess)

Character Sheets are not a Necessity; More of a "Showcase"

Getting rid of the current storyline "waking up in a vault" STILL points back to there were original maps.

Inventing a storyline that isn't half-cocked

RP more, Mine less.

Designated Mining Areas.

Actually creating a marketplace

Me going Back to just being Leonardo of Caphori.

Possible event of uniting the lands against unspeakable evils

Recrowning Leonardo as King/Finding a more Suitable lord.

Everyone wants to meet the king? He's got more important things to do than shake hands and entertain guests.

Cleaning up the Board. (It seems very damned cluttered to me)

Server Suggestions

Getting rid of a lot of gear. this is an RP server.

Class system, Quests, and other goodies.

An arena to fight for Fame, Fortune, and wealth.

Make Fame/Infamy logic

Bounties for players who are negative/Positive. (Can only be collected once.)

Reputations as "Class Name", will affect you later one

No current factions, start from beginning as travelers from distant nations.

Positive/Negative Class Upgrades.

Promotion of classes

Class warfare (meaning that fame could take a king back down to serfdom) (WIP)

Hero class Will be the hardest/highest to obtain

Currently working on:
Class/Title system: 25%/100%
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: bastidon on 28-09-2012
Hello everyone. I'm not back yet, or even decided if I am coming back. If you don't know who I am, I was once a mod on this server, I left around the time the most recent revamp happened. I'mg glad this is out here. Caphori is currently gone, I say...burn it. Burn the entire thing and rebuild it brick by brick, better story, a close review to the rules (or at least the ones I saw when I left.) , and a general improvement in RP. I remember my very first day, I wasn't the greatest when I came to Roleplay. I had three people pull me aside privately and politely, help improve my RP. That's what we need. People willing to help others increase RP, designate really good RPers to help specifically? Maybe. Just as a community help everyone else? I'd prefer that. I tossed in my two cents, go ahead and try to help.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Steven :D on 28-09-2012
Quote from: bastidon on 28-09-2012
Hello everyone. I'm not back yet, or even decided if I am coming back. If you don't know who I am, I was once a mod on this server, I left around the time the most recent revamp happened. I'mg glad this is out here. Caphori is currently gone, I say...burn it. Burn the entire thing and rebuild it brick by brick, better story, a close review to the rules (or at least the ones I saw when I left.) , and a general improvement in RP. I remember my very first day, I wasn't the greatest when I came to Roleplay. I had three people pull me aside privately and politely, help improve my RP. That's what we need. People willing to help others increase RP, designate really good RPers to help specifically? Maybe. Just as a community help everyone else? I'd prefer that. I tossed in my two cents, go ahead and try to help.
I'm okay with this.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Syndraell on 28-09-2012
The first days I played on this server...

I will never be able to summarize the right words of it's greatness.

It is the First Caphori that was the greatest. all the other maps, all the other ideas were just half assed copies.

I honestly hope that it can be turned back to that. or as close as we can possibly get.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: INA7HAN on 29-09-2012
1) We need a wider variety of jobs than warriors/bandits/super ninjas

2) Maybe we should find a mod which improves rp but doesn't add a fuck tonne of new uber weapons and armour.

3) When a new map is made stop making a fucking castle that takes up half the spawn area. We don't need a giant castle it is never used and it just gets in the way.

4) We actually need people to actually want to play before just wiping, no point wiping if no one is going to play.

5) We need more admins which can help enforce rules and look after the server.

6) Less people who are just playing to get gear and win at the game.

7) Actual rp which isn't stupid

8 ) Can I keep my character so I don't lose all my backstory and hard work? :3

9) We need people who actually and not just people who join and then leave the next day. We need to keep all the players that join if they're good rpers

10) We need a proper marketplace where we can trade items and have people for seperate roles. A swordsmith (Sells swords) An armoursmith (Sells armour) Wizard (Sells wizard shit) Alchemist (Sells potions) have a pup/bar/ tavern which is actually run by someone and used by people to rp in.

11) Better characters with actual stories than, parents died so he joined military.

12) We need people who actually want to play peasants/poorish people. It's strange living in a town/city where everyone has a set of armour mostly good armour. Not even fantasy games have everyone with armour.

13) Believeable races

14) No freaking vampires!

15) Make more than one village with a different backstory and people (Stealing from skyrim here) so players can chose which race/people they prefer. So if someone likes a strong war like people they go to said village, if they like to be diplomatic and solve fights with words they go to so and so.

16) Don't change the time and date to a few more hundred years or people will start saying "Well by now people will probably have made laser guns and jetpacks"
Just make it a new land, people can then choose wether to bring their old characters over (I mean this by backstory only or even their items depending)

17) More stories/ events that will keep people interested. Vary them from battles to simply finding a gem or something simple. Not everything has to be slashy slashy.

18) Make factions better/ official ones, maybe each village with it's own race/ sub set of humans can be a different faction.

That's all I got I hope you read this and give your opinions on what is said.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Crow793 on 29-09-2012
Too many leaders, not enough followers. This was what I think was the main problem.


My ICly proposition: Abolish all user-made factions. Create like 3 main factions that center around the storyline, and players can choose their alignment from there. Rping is no fun when everybody is a leader of something. And with more players in each faction, great Rp events such as wars, sabotage, espionage, and even corruption and "Romeo and Juliet"-esque moments could emerge.


I started Al-Ataf and didn't get one member. It got dull as all hell. I imagine the same happened with the city guard, the Karnac, etc.


OOCly proposition: Not as huge a problem this world, but moreso in the past. Don't give Mods high ranking RP positions just because they're mods. Judge it on RP alone.


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I also may recommend the abolishment of all armor and weapons shadow(Armor, night's edge, etc.) and above, excluding vanity items and accessories. (HM items still approval based, of course.) I feel like Rp would be more interesting if everybody didn't use overpowered items. A city of folk with silver swords and iron armor seems more realistic to me. Not jungle armored rocket boot ninja shadow demon soldier gods.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Syndraell on 29-09-2012
Quote from: INA7HAN on 29-09-2012
1) We need a wider variety of jobs than warriors/bandits/super ninjas

2) Maybe we should find a mod which improves rp but doesn't add a fuck tonne of new uber weapons and armour.

3) When a new map is made stop making a fucking castle that takes up half the spawn area. We don't need a giant castle it is never used and it just gets in the way.

4) We actually need people to actually want to play before just wiping, no point wiping if no one is going to play.

5) We need more admins which can help enforce rules and look after the server.

6) Less people who are just playing to get gear and win at the game.

7) Actual rp which isn't stupid

8 ) Can I keep my character so I don't lose all my backstory and hard work? :3

9) We need people who actually and not just people who join and then leave the next day. We need to keep all the players that join if they're good rpers

10) We need a proper marketplace where we can trade items and have people for seperate roles. A swordsmith (Sells swords) An armoursmith (Sells armour) Wizard (Sells wizard shit) Alchemist (Sells potions) have a pup/bar/ tavern which is actually run by someone and used by people to rp in.

11) Better characters with actual stories than, parents died so he joined military.

12) We need people who actually want to play peasants/poorish people. It's strange living in a town/city where everyone has a set of armour mostly good armour. Not even fantasy games have everyone with armour.

13) Believeable races

14) No freaking vampires!

15) Make more than one village with a different backstory and people (Stealing from skyrim here) so players can chose which race/people they prefer. So if someone likes a strong war like people they go to said village, if they like to be diplomatic and solve fights with words they go to so and so.

16) Don't change the time and date to a few more hundred years or people will start saying "Well by now people will probably have made laser guns and jetpacks"
Just make it a new land, people can then choose wether to bring their old characters over (I mean this by backstory only or even their items depending)

17) More stories/ events that will keep people interested. Vary them from battles to simply finding a gem or something simple. Not everything has to be slashy slashy.

18) Make factions better/ official ones, maybe each village with it's own race/ sub set of humans can be a different faction.

That's all I got I hope you read this and give your opinions on what is said.

1. True, we need to have a sort of class system.
2. Heard of one in development, but is still a WIP.
3. Right, i'll put it in a different district. Still want to do the cathedral idea. (spawning in a church reminds me of dragon warrior.)
4. It's gonna be hard to get people on, maybe i could post a bit in the Caphori group.
5. Nachytsm- He (was) more active than most of the other admins, maybe including myself.
6. I think gear should also be classed. but what would be a good way of classifying people? (Like peasant,serf,commoner etc.)
7. RP Better, Mine Less.
8. I will allow that, but he'll be coming from a distant land (same goes for anyone who wishes to do the same)
9. Two weeks MIA=AFK list. 1 Month absent=Remove from List
10. Everyone wants to make potions. So potions could be classified into classes as well (everyone can make low-teir health potions.)
11. Character sheets can also be classified as a journal system (But not a necessity.)
12. Tiers. there should be a class system, and hopefully i can figure out a system which measures class (like gold or something)
13. Alright, I guess we could create a races thread. (Custom races will have to have balance)
14. ...Unless they actually know how to play one. (Literal research of Vampyric Lore required. No Sparkling Allowed)
15. I guess we could draw up some plans to make specific villages. (I'm leaning to the "No current monarchy idea")
16. Medieval/revolutionized. Guns are allowable, but not modern guns/space stuff.
17. Still working on the "Forbidden Kingdom"
18. We'll start out with no factions. guilds are an acceptability. (anything over 5 members should apply to be a faction.)
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: bastidon on 29-09-2012
I'm liking the progress I'm seeing, and I think I saw something about no established government. I think that'd be good, three towns splinter off and debate (or pillage and murder) their way to becoming the new order. Each town with a different view, each wanting to become the power, James and I talked a little about all these ideas last night, and We'd been thinking in some event in the future where that had to join together against a mighty evil. A bit like the Resistance and The Monarchy joined up against this evil race of purgers who wanted every one who wasn't a human that didn't use magic to die. That'd all work out nicely and give quite a bit of quality Role play.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Syndraell on 29-09-2012
Quote from: bastidon on 29-09-2012
I'm liking the progress I'm seeing, and I think I saw something about no established government. I think that'd be good, three towns splinter off and debate (or pillage and murder) their way to becoming the new order. Each town with a different view, each wanting to become the power, James and I talked a little about all these ideas last night, and We'd been thinking in some event in the future where that had to join together against a mighty evil. A bit like the Resistance and The Monarchy joined up against this evil race of purgers who wanted every one who wasn't a human that didn't use magic to die. That'd all work out nicely and give quite a bit of quality Role play.

It's a start for sure. I guess the Forbidden Kingdom event ties in with the "forces of evil"
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: matter on 29-09-2012
Quote from: INA7HAN on 29-09-2012

14) No freaking vampires!



Damn it


Quote from: James Almasy on 29-09-2012

14. ...Unless they actually know how to play one. (Literal research of Vampyric Lore required. No Sparkling Allowed)



Much better idea
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Abolishing the RPR rating, it's useless.

True. I say down with it.

Enforcement of the "No reckless mining" rule (Violators will be forced to fix their own mess)

This could be done with region protection, but it'd be hard to make a house when you can't place or destroy tiles.

Character Sheets are not a Necessity; More of a "Showcase"

Nobody uses character sheets really anyway, they already are more of a showcase.

Getting rid of the current storyline "waking up in a vault" STILL points back to there were original maps.

This story line was kinda ruined when Kami left and the fates "vanished". So yes a new story line is recommended.

Inventing a storyline that isn't half-cocked

Well yes. The story is nice and all, but it doesn't work for continuing with lots of people. Most didn't even pay attention to it.

RP more, Mine less.

This should go without saying, but what's the first thing I notice when I get back? All the dungeons have been looted completely.

Designated Mining Areas.

Not something I really recommend unless you set up something like Molko's mine where the minerals are regenerated by some mystical force. Other wise the mine areas will be stripped in no time.

Actually creating a marketplace
Yes. We need specific people doing marketplace jobs. I remember last map Pumilionis was like the only person who sold things on a regular basis, and somehow he still maintained a good RP. So you can do a small job and RP people. Just be creative.

Me going Back to just being Leonardo of Caphori.

Like a normal citizen? Sure. Hell, we could start completely over and be like pioneers or something.

Possible event of uniting the lands against unspeakable evils

Been there done that. Doesn't get old though. Just need to be more original. Demon invasion from hell? Done it. Army of goblins coming to raid the land? Sure thing and doable with TShock.

Recrowning Leonardo as King/Finding a more Suitable lord.

I think this is the perfect time to take over finally. That is if people would name me king. No objections to Leo becoming king again though.

Everyone wants to meet the king? He's got more important things to do than shake hands and entertain guests.

And that's why he needs some personal staff. Royal guard, royal scribe, ect.

Cleaning up the Board. (It seems very damned cluttered to me)

But what about all the funny old conversations we've had? If we can somehow keep them then I'll agree to this.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Syndraell on 29-09-2012
Shame they never made "Skeleton Army" an actual raid event.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: 2ktaco on 29-09-2012
What Caphori needs: 3rd Dimension
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Prism on 29-09-2012
Quote from: 2ktaco on 29-09-2012
What Caphori needs: 3rd Dimension


Third dimension is too mainstream, it like has currents, man.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: vatovie on 30-09-2012
Back from my week long being gone and this sounds great.
I hope I can keep the backstories of my two characters one is a merc and the other is a scholar who can only run away really well when it comes to combat.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: INA7HAN on 30-09-2012
We need things like this for custom races
Race: Jalis (Human sub culture)
Strengths: Strong, Skilled warriors, good leadership skills, cannot become corrupt
Weaknesses: Not good with firearms, cannot use corrupt items, cannot use magic
Backstory: BLAH BLAH BLAH (Insert valid backstory here)
(Put some more things in maybe)
Last edited by James Almasy
Custom race accepted
or
Custom race denied
Admins become in control of custom races and the race of your character should be stated when you make your application, if you want to be a custom race, you have to fll out the form for being one where it can be accepted or denied by admin. If race is denied they can still join server but as something more common like a human or elf, or they can pick from an already made custom race made by another player.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Syndraell on 30-09-2012
Quote from: INA7HAN on 30-09-2012
We need things like this for custom races
Race: Jalis (Human sub culture)
Strengths: Strong, Skilled warriors, good leadership skills, cannot become corrupt
Weaknesses: Not good with firearms, cannot use corrupt items, cannot use magic
Backstory: BLAH BLAH BLAH (Insert valid backstory here)
(Put some more things in maybe)
Last edited by James Almasy
Custom race accepted
or
Custom race denied
Admins become in control of custom races and the race of your character should be stated when you make your application, if you want to be a custom race, you have to fll out the form for being one where it can be accepted or denied by admin. If race is denied they can still join server but as something more common like a human or elf, or they can pick from an already made custom race made by another player.

I'll only deny it when it's so god awful/ridiculous. I will give them the chance to try to balance their race(s). and once a valid race idea/backstory/skills have been chosen, i will lock the post. (to prevent tampering)
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Crow793 on 30-09-2012
Caphori isn't devoid of life because players didn't get to play the race they wanted. Look at the big picture.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: the_grub on 05-10-2012
Quote from: bastidon on 28-09-2012
Hello everyone. I'm not back yet, or even decided if I am coming back. If you don't know who I am, I was once a mod on this server, I left around the time the most recent revamp happened. I'mg glad this is out here. Caphori is currently gone, I say...burn it. Burn the entire thing and rebuild it brick by brick, better story, a close review to the rules (or at least the ones I saw when I left.) , and a general improvement in RP. I remember my very first day, I wasn't the greatest when I came to Roleplay. I had three people pull me aside privately and politely, help improve my RP. That's what we need. People willing to help others increase RP, designate really good RPers to help specifically? Maybe. Just as a community help everyone else? I'd prefer that. I tossed in my two cents, go ahead and try to help.
THIS, and I am coming back along with some others
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: INA7HAN on 05-10-2012
Good more people would be great as long as you can roleplay and not gear/item whore
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: the_grub on 05-10-2012
are you questioning my RP ability Nathan, i mean i might be a bit rusty but im not bad
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: INA7HAN on 05-10-2012
Quote from: the_grub on 05-10-2012
are you questioning my RP ability Nathan, i mean i might be a bit rusty but im not bad
No?
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: the_grub on 05-10-2012
I am, I haven't rp'd since I left caphori :/
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Ragolution on 05-10-2012
Gear?
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Syndraell on 05-10-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 05-10-2012
Gear?

Trying to crack down on Gear Whores.

Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Steven :D on 05-10-2012
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-10-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 05-10-2012
Gear?

Trying to crack down on Gear Whores.


http://www.youtube.com/v/xWMpeBSxfnQ&autoplay=1
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: CAMaera on 29-10-2012
Quote from: James Almasy on 28-09-2012
The first days I played on this server...

I will never be able to summarize the right words of it's greatness.

It is the First Caphori that was the greatest. all the other maps, all the other ideas were just half assed copies.

I honestly hope that it can be turned back to that. or as close as we can possibly get.

It really had ups and downs. Pros and cons. Good RP and well, slight ERP for the wierdest reasons, Good mods and admins and bad ones. I don't think I even remember the first day that much. I remember I was good friends with this Bartol guy, he was so awesome. He had a really solid character going. Then he just vanished. Then he griefed randomly, and I was supposedly connected to it and got banned for silly reasons! The end.

Also, I'll start on the massive VIP tower that only me and my friends can go in XDDD that'll give it that "1st Gen Caphori" feel.

INA7HAN had a really good idea here. It would crack down on some of the more...silly races *cough*Aravaras*cough*, because I'm sure they were mistakes and shouldn't be taken seriously or acknowledged whatsoever because that was the past.

I think what we need are some more EVENTS. Those are awesome. They get more people on the server, and they generally have fun with it. I also agree completely with all of James' point form changes. And another idea, maybe we could have some sort of Quest Counter or the like, just a building with a Mod/Admin behind the counter playing a Questgiver, and a list of jobs. It would give it a more "Human" feel.

#jk1stgenwasgood
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: darkshinyprincess2 on 29-10-2012
Abby Stone is Wet
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: D33tly on 29-10-2012
Quote from: darkshinyprincess2 on 29-10-2012
These are good ideas. Here's mine: A comunist goverment. Could sound bad, but in a reduced population the control is easier. A new citizen come, you recently obtained an iron armor, you are FORCED to give him your copper armor. This could avoid the senseless mining, the ore whoring, etc. A tax payment could be good idea too. Like in the real life, you pay money to the goverment, and it uses the money to upgrade the city. What u think?
It's spelled: Communist.
And I think i'll leave this here.
QuoteMost people know what communism is at its most basic level. Simply put, communism is the idea that everyone in a given society receives equal shares of the benefits derived from labor. Communism is designed to allow the poor to rise up and attain financial and social status equal to that of the middle-class landowners. In order for everyone to achieve equality, wealth is redistributed so that the members of the upper class are brought down to the same financial and social level as the middle class. Communism also requires that all means of production be controlled by the state. In other words, no one can own his or her own business or produce his or her own goods because the state owns everything.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: darkshinyprincess2 on 29-10-2012
Abby Stone is Wet
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: CAMaera on 29-10-2012
Quote from: darkshinyprincess2 on 29-10-2012
Sorry for my english, i'm spanish and i have many mistakes.

Well, I meant a communism adapted to this land. No own bussiness? Good bye to my potion shop. But the tax paymet could be a good idea, like in real life.

You...you don't have a shop. Not to be mean, but why are you even contributing to a server you're banned from?

It could be an interesting idea, but with people being on at different times and being absent frequently, it won't work. What is, per chance, a "Day" IC? Ahd how would you charge someone that's not there? And what would, then, a "Week" be? Or a "Month"?
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: D33tly on 29-10-2012
Quote from: darkshinyprincess2 on 29-10-2012
Sorry for my english, i'm spanish and i have many mistakes.

Well, I meant a communism adapted to this land. No own business? Good bye to my potion shop. But the tax payment could be a good idea, like in real life.
Not to mention the armor wouldn't work, because the state own the armor. Same with the mine, the house, the everything. Nothing isn't owned by the state. Nobody, in my opinion, would really want that, seeing as how many people are born and raised learning to become better, and earn more money then one another. And I don't mean in the game, i mean IRL, so they would subconsciously try and better themselves, when in communism, you really cant seeing as how all are on an equal playing field.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: darkshinyprincess2 on 30-10-2012
Abby Stone is Wet
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Ragolution on 30-10-2012
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Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: CAMaera on 30-10-2012
But...but...we're discussing...
*hears a bang in the distance*
Eep! Okay, okay! No more posts!
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Syndraell on 30-10-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 30-10-2012
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Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Ragolution on 30-10-2012
Think of who I directed that towards.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Syndraell on 30-10-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 30-10-2012
Think of who I directed that towards.

I know who you directed that towards.
I don't blame you for it either.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: darkshinyprincess2 on 31-10-2012
Abby Stone is Wet
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Ragolution on 31-10-2012
Quote from: darkshinyprincess2 on 31-10-2012
If you dont want me to post, ban me until 21th.

I don't know what "21th" is but had I the power to ban you, I gladly would.
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: darkshinyprincess2 on 31-10-2012
Abby Stone is Wet
Title: Re: What Caphori Needs...
Post by: Gonztah on 31-10-2012
Quote from: darkshinyprincess2 on 31-10-2012
TERRARIANS, Y U HATE ME SO MUCH

I'm not even a terrarian and I hate you. You're an annoying cyberer who begs to get accepted back to the Terraria server