Powergaming

Started by Spades_Neil, 06-06-2011

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Spades_Neil

Tesla armor doesn't make you indestructible.

Just makes you harder to kill. That is all.

Duranblackraven

That was EXTREAMLY descriptive and moving. The text lifted from it's resting places like birds taking off. It brought a tear to my eye with joy.

R3BooT

Quote from: Duranblackraven on 06-06-2011
That was EXTREAMLY descriptive and moving. The text lifted from it's resting places like birds taking off. It brought a tear to my eye with joy.

It brought me even more joy than you could ever have.
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jaik

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 06-06-2011
Tesla armor doesn't make you indestructible.
Well. Yes, it does.
Tesla field is a nice bonus, but it still can be destroyed and everything. Plasma beams bypass the tesla field and if you shoot dozens of laser beams it will most likely shut it down.
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Spades_Neil

Quote from: Jake on 07-06-2011
Blah blah blah powergaming

Fixed.

jaik

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 07-06-2011
Quote from: Jake on 07-06-2011
Blah blah blah powergaming

Fixed.

No need to be a dick.
I won't do any changes unless I see something wrong with it or unless something is proposed.
Right now you're just bitching.
Blake.H: And im also working on whipping him into shape
Blake.H: He's nice
Blake.H: He doesn't moan
Blake.H: The sheer obedience is enough to fuel my erection anyway

Spades_Neil

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Quote from: Jake on 08-06-2011
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 07-06-2011
Quote from: Jake on 07-06-2011
Blah blah blah powergaming

Fixed.

No need to be a dick.
I won't do any changes unless I see something wrong with it or unless something is proposed.
Right now you're just bitching.

Good point. Allow me to fix that:

There is no reason why you should be 100% indestructible. Oh, and plasma weapons don't count. You're not being realistic seeing as NONE of us possess anything that powerful.

So Tesla armor deflects lazorz and bullets can't penetrate it.

That's godmodding/powergaming. You can walk around doing whatever the hell you want because allegedly no one can stop you. Though isn't there a rule somewhere about powergaming?

jaik

You're not suggesting anything helpful again.
Going "WAAAAA NERF ENCLAVE NOW" won't help.

Exactly the same could be said about BoS. Bullets do not penetrate t-45d nor t-51b.

This is not an issue.
Blake.H: And im also working on whipping him into shape
Blake.H: He's nice
Blake.H: He doesn't moan
Blake.H: The sheer obedience is enough to fuel my erection anyway

Spades_Neil

#8
Quote from: Jake on 08-06-2011
Exactly the same could be said about BoS. Bullets do not penetrate t-45d nor t-51b.

This is not an issue.

Wrong, because they don't go around acting like they're indestructible. Or maybe it's just because BoS isn't running around causing trouble like the Enclave who are comparable to raiders with plasma weapons and "bullet/laserproof" Tesla armor.

Remember when Jon had power armor and was a bulletproof bandit? You're doing that.

You're powergaming. You're the only one arguing otherwise. If you put Kira in power armor, that doesn't make her bullet proof either. That makes her harder to kill, no shit, but not indestructible.

jaik

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 08-06-2011
Wrong, because they don't go around acting like they're indestructible. Or maybe it's just because BoS isn't running around causing trouble

They used to.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 08-06-2011
Enclave who are comparable to raiders with plasma weapons and "bullet/laserproof" Tesla armor.
Remember when Jon had power armor and was a bulletproof bandit? You're doing that.

Not really.
We do not do this for personal gain.
Also; we have NEVER robbed anyone in power armor and don't intend to do it either, you're just upset that we took your laser weaponry.
Blake.H: And im also working on whipping him into shape
Blake.H: He's nice
Blake.H: He doesn't moan
Blake.H: The sheer obedience is enough to fuel my erection anyway

Recreas

Play Fallout 3, test every weapon on the Enclave Tesla Armor. And see what does hurt it and what doesn't.

Problem solved.
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Wolfinton

Quote from: Recreas on 08-06-2011
Play Fallout 3, test every weapon on the Enclave Tesla Armor. And see what does hurt it and what doesn't.

Problem solved.

The issue with that is a knife can kill a power armoured man eventually. The game has to be balanced and therefore has to allow all weapons to kill the enemy. It's best to go off the lore than the actual gameplay otherwise killing the Enclave throughout the game would be too hard.
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Spades_Neil

#12
Quote from: Jake on 08-06-2011
you're just upset that we took your laser weaponry.

No I'm upset because EVERY roleplay I've been in with you wearing Tesla armor you're indestructible. The whole Richard story arc, the Enclave guy who committed suicide in the bunker, and so on.

You weren't even wearing Tesla armor when you stole my laser weapons. Remember?
Therefore, your argument is invalid. That roleplay went fine. You let me do a dice /roll to try and save my ass, and I failed it. You also weren't wearing power armor though.



Think about it. If that armor was indestructible in the real Fallout universe, what's stopping Enclave from steamrolling the whole wasteland? Absolutely nothing. The Brotherhood does NOT have that many plasma weapons, and the regular wastelander has absolutely zip.

EDIT: Now Wolf says you're fireproof. asdfg what? One, flamers are banned due to glitches according to Blake from my understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong on this so I can get my old flamer refunded. Two, since when the hell are you also fireproof? Sure, metal doesn't light on fire, but metal conducts heat, and no way in hell you have enough insulation to stop that kind of heat. Nevermind, R3BooT tells me you were half dead when it was over. Was that due to the fuel tank exploding or the fire?

Paintcheck

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 08-06-2011

Think about it. If that armor was indestructible in the real Fallout universe, what's stopping Enclave from steamrolling the whole wasteland? Absolutely nothing. The Brotherhood does NOT have that many plasma weapons, and the regular wastelander has absolutely zip.


The Enclave did steamroll the entire wasteland in FO2, it was only because the Lone Wanderer got lucky and blew up their base of operations that they didn't take everything over iirc.

You need to realize that the Enclave ARE superior to wastelanders in every way. That's why they are scary. Yes in FO3 and FO2 you could kill them, that's because in those 2 games you were hard core badasses who didn't afraid of anything. That's not how an average wastelander would see them though.

jaik

Quote from: Paintcheck on 10-06-2011
The Enclave did steamroll the entire wasteland in FO2, it was only because the Lone Wanderer got lucky and blew up their base of operations that they didn't take everything over iirc.

You need to realize that the Enclave ARE superior to wastelanders in every way. That's why they are scary. Yes in FO3 and FO2 you could kill them, that's because in those 2 games you were hard core badasses who didn't afraid of anything. That's not how an average wastelander would see them though.

Exactly
Blake.H: And im also working on whipping him into shape
Blake.H: He's nice
Blake.H: He doesn't moan
Blake.H: The sheer obedience is enough to fuel my erection anyway