Poll
Question:
Should we change maps?
Option 1: No, I like RP_Apocalypse.
Option 2: Yes, I think GM_Atomic would work.
Option 3: Yes, but I'll post my own map suggestion below. (NO STALKER MAPS.)
Thank you everyone for your feedback. We have changed the map to GM_Atomic, at least for the time being. We'll see how it all works out and meet on this again at a later date. For now, enjoy the change in maps!
If you need a link, either go to the info thread, or download GM_Atomic right off of Toybox.
lol this didn't fucking work. We're going back to Apoc soon.
I agree with you Spades, GM_Atomic was great. Loved it. I had my best FORP RP times there, and yes, RP_apocalypse is too large. Hope we switch to GM_atomic again. P.S. i think Enclave should have that one town with the bunker, cause it would be like the Enclave are secluded tot he bunker. we would just block off that one teleport to the bunker town. Or that could be a vault or something. Either way.
Personally, I would like to see the change of scenery now and then. It would be hard to hide items on the map like GM_Atomic. Yet it would be good to have the players roleplaying finding an item. Maybe.
Also... when do we get to go on RP_Salvation2? I would like to see that map in actions
And D33tly. Brotherhood should have the Bunker if we go to GM_Atomic. Enclave has the giant awesome one in Rp_Salvation (even if the map is small)
Uh, Caso, I just mean that in (HGN's) lore, Enclave has a bunker. So, when I remembered this map, it had a bunker. So I just thought of putting one and one together.
Anything but Atomic, that map is so dull.
What about that one relatively flat TRP map I showed you? The maker even remade it for SRP. And isn't there a remake of CSC Desert with a fix?
Quote from: D33tly on 30-12-2011
Uh, Caso, I just mean that in (HGN's) lore, Enclave has a bunker. So, when I remembered this map, it had a bunker. So I just thought of putting one and one together.
I know but if the Enclave get the bunker in GM_Atomic then people cant really populate the town in the area. And it would mostly go to Enclave really running the whole thing. If anyone is in the vicinity they can't really come close unless they want to be killed off, or captured and THEN killed
Yeah, your right I guess Caso, havn't played the map for awhile so my memory is a bit rusty. Also, question for spades: Are we gonna event a move from our part of step jaw to another part?
Atomic is terrible since the whole map is situated terribly.
Specifically that bunker in the middle of the map. It's the hotspot for player to visit.
And also since almost every other spot on the map is completely visible from there. Makes it difficult to move about in secrecy.
stalker map.
I think the big issue with GM_Atomic will be the lack of faction bases. I like that the town is a hotspot for players, but this can backfire as well. Brotherhood of Steel would get that bunker, but who else gets what?
Probably what I'd do is I would manually construct the bases for Enclave using some Combine and PHX props, while an Outcast base would be built out of scrap--but you get the idea. The map is great for wasters, not so great for factions.
Also I checked out RP_Salvation_2 a while ago. (Not the Stalker version.) It'd actually work very nicely, but has too many palm trees for my liking. A possibility, however. Though I'm hoping Exile will someday get to finishing that super old FORP map he once said he was working on.
I personally still like rp_apocolypse more then gm_atmoic, but I can see where your going with this. Problem I'm seeing is that people are already attached to rp_apoclypse and would be hard to start all over again in a new map, but I may be underestimating this idea. What if we go big and make a map of our own, then it will all be suited to our liking. Just throwing ideas.
^ this actually, we could get someone who knows how to make a map well, and just make things work. Tell them to make a secluded bunker, something for outcasts, and something for BoS. It would make sure to suit the needs of the playerbase, and go with canon. But map makers don't usually make maps for free >.>
Quote from: D33tly on 31-12-2011
^ this actually, we could get someone who knows how to make a map well, and just make things work. Tell them to make a secluded bunker, something for outcasts, and something for BoS. It would make sure to suit the needs of the playerbase, and go with canon. But map makers don't usually make maps for free >.>
Well, I know before that Ace had tried contacting map makers before. I dont know what happened but at the same time it takes months to even make a map and work out the bugs. Such as the map might randomly kill people due to glitches or have memory leaks and crash the server. Mr.Pink tried to make a map.... he gave up soon after (lol)
If we do get a map maker other then Exile, more likely we wont see the map until a couple months later.
Yeah but still, how good would it be for the server if we had our own custom map. I like the underground bunker for the Outcasts, we can have a base for the Enclave, a citadel for the Brotherhood of Steel, a encampment for the super mutants, caves for the ghouls, a lake and a bridge, fortress's for groups, and towns for people to inhabitate. I would make the map, but I am just not that good at making maps.
Quote from: pilot on 31-12-2011
I personally still like rp_apocolypse more then gm_atmoic, but I can see where your going with this. Problem I'm seeing is that people are already attached to rp_apoclypse and would be hard to start all over again in a new map, but I may be underestimating this idea. What if we go big and make a map of our own, then it will all be suited to our liking. Just throwing ideas.
Pilot has good idea! rp_Apocalypse for the win.
none will map for hgn without getting paid and any attempts on frp playerbase's side have failed. frp won't have a playable custom map (without silver's intervention) -- fact.
I whole heartedly agree the current map is too big for us, but atomic is just not designed well for anything but comics.
Please consider Salvation2 or the SRP version first.
I went on this server because it was on rp_apocolypse. Everyone else is on gm_atomic, I believe rp_apocolypse stands out from all the other servers. I also think that if we change to gm_atomic people that some percentage of HGN will maybe drop if they don't like the new map. It's something to really think about, it may be a tough choice, but I know you guys are really thinking about this.
I will try to make a map we will see how it goes.
I'm going to side with Khorne on this one. I support going to Salvation.
Atomic is a good map and all.... but it only has one town... and then buildings in the wasteland. No water so no mirelurks. And not to mention its not wastelandy. Its more of a RAGE type of map.(RAGE is a Bethesda game). I really dont think you want to go around the place and static houses. Not to mention trying to do it in SDK.
Quote from: halokiller38 on 01-01-2012
Atomic is a good map and all.... but it only has one town... and then buildings in the wasteland. No water so no mirelurks. And not to mention its not wastelandy. Its more of a RAGE type of map.(RAGE is a Bethesda game). I really dont think you want to go around the place and static houses. Not to mention trying to do it in SDK.
Actually I like that it only has one town, because it also has some really good areas to build. I've seen some very complex towns constructed before made of props like train cars, container doors, and various other junk.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 01-01-2012
Quote from: halokiller38 on 01-01-2012
Atomic is a good map and all.... but it only has one town... and then buildings in the wasteland. No water so no mirelurks. And not to mention its not wastelandy. Its more of a RAGE type of map.(RAGE is a Bethesda game). I really dont think you want to go around the place and static houses. Not to mention trying to do it in SDK.
Actually I like that it only has one town, because it also has some really good areas to build. I've seen some very complex towns constructed before made of props like train cars, container doors, and various other junk.
gm_buttes
http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=38215 (http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=38215)
Has amazing tunnels, a wide expanse and some water (I don't know why) but it could be pretty neat for building towns as well. I'll get some images ingame of the tunnels.
No offense But thats really deserty and something from star wars
Quote from: halokiller38 on 02-01-2012
No offense But thats really deserty and something from star wars
It actually reminds me Shady Sands.
Also, what is that "dark secret" about? It could ruin atmosphere for some people.
Quote from: Iam333 on 02-01-2012
Quote from: halokiller38 on 02-01-2012
No offense But thats really deserty and something from star wars
It actually reminds me Shady Sands.
Also, what is that "dark secret" about? It could ruin atmosphere for some people.
The tunnels.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/stevencortez/screenshot/594706251598489921?tab=public (http://steamcommunity.com/id/stevencortez/screenshot/594706251598489921?tab=public)
Look at my scenebuilds and screenshots of the map. Perfect for Creativity because its so open. Theres a night AND day version.
Personally I like atomic, I remember having some fun rp time, and events in atomic... So what is there are no faction bases, why not just make your own? There are sections of the map to build on, and it could be a good change, I would say we try it out if the votes are on atomic.
Quote from: Steven :D on 02-01-2012
http://steamcommunity.com/id/stevencortez/screenshot/594706251598489921?tab=public (http://steamcommunity.com/id/stevencortez/screenshot/594706251598489921?tab=public)
Look at my scenebuilds and screenshots of the map. Perfect for Creativity because its so open. Theres a night AND day version.
Since your so good at building, you should build for us in atomic :). (No but really, that was well constructed.)
One reason atomic sucks also, is that it is a desert. we are North of the DC right? More buildings and darker lands. Not brown and tan colors.
I suggest that we give atomic a chance, if it doesnt work, change back?
Quote from: Nik3 on 03-01-2012
I suggest that we give atomic a chance, if it doesnt work, change back?
Ya that seems fair
Quote from: halokiller38 on 03-01-2012
Quote from: Nik3 on 03-01-2012
I suggest that we give atomic a chance, if it doesnt work, change back?
Ya that seems fair
+Support
Please... No Atomic. It's not that I don't like it, it's just that we've had it SO often. It's always either Apocalypse, or Atomic. I'll do some digging around and see if I can find a map that's usable.
Quote from: halokiller38 on 03-01-2012
Quote from: Nik3 on 03-01-2012
I suggest that we give atomic a chance, if it doesnt work, change back?
Ya that seems fair
Absolutely.
Let's do it then, shall we?
Right now? then switch it now.
I like to run these things by the other admins before just doing it. It's just out of politeness.
I'll wait for a reply from Blake and Khorn and see what they think of it.
Okay
Wait will we have to change complete characters and other things?
Quote from: halokiller38 on 03-01-2012
Wait will we have to change complete characters and other things?
No.
Quote from: Steven :D on 03-01-2012
Quote from: halokiller38 on 03-01-2012
Wait will we have to change complete characters and other things?
No.
Good :D
I hate you people...
Quote from: Khorn on 03-01-2012
I hate you people...
I agree.
I would have liked to go on RP_Salvation2 :|
Quote from: Caso on 03-01-2012
Quote from: Khorn on 03-01-2012
I hate you people...
I agree.
I would have liked to go on RP_Salvation2 :|
Thats more of a terminator map :/
besides Atomic is big and you can make more towns.
Please inform us when the map changing is happening. (if it does :p)
I'd suggest using Ubase v1(Brown lands) or V2(Green lands).
RP Salvation2(Brown Lands) or RP Salvation SRP(Green Lands)
And lastly, GM_Aftermath.
All those look so much better than GM Atomic.
For me I don't like atomic cause its mostly flat grounds. You might as well change it to GM_Flatgrass :>
Quote from: Tom on 04-01-2012
For me I don't like atomic cause its mostly flat grounds. You might as well change it to GM_Flatgrass :>
gm_buttes
I dont see how having a large map is a very bad thing? If anything its good, it gives everyone a greater chance to plan there raids/attacks if they are into that. It gives players a better ability to sneak about (Especially with the destroyed city.) It give trade Caravans to establish there own personal routes rather then the same thing. I gives normal wasters a heck of a lot more room to settle on (homes).
Too be fair, I think factions are way too settled to move now and hell most rp occures in the town in the map so why would we look for another map?
In short, theres really nothing special about Atomic while there is a hell lot more to do in Apocolype.
Map change event is happening get on FORP! Now!
Why don't you tell blake to stop buying boose and buy the new map components so I can finally get working on the new map?
Atomic is too open, not enough bases, and will require people to build their own fortifications and towns, I thought this was rp not a build server.
SPADES, Y U NO GET BETTER MAPS?
Quote from: Pepsigod on 04-01-2012
Why don't you tell blake to stop buying boose and buy the new map components so I can finally get working on the new map?
Atomic is too open, not enough bases, and will require people to build their own fortifications and towns, I thought this was rp not a build server.
Buying map components? You mean booze, right?
lol this isn't working.
I think we're going to go back to RP_Apocalypse again soon. Fuck it. Server population isn't doing well and it's counteracting my initial problem with the population not being concentrated enough.
We'll probably just swap back to the old map.
Oh he finally realises then, this another failed decision? -__-
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 20-01-2012
lol this isn't working.
I think we're going to go back to RP_Apocalypse again soon. Fuck it. Server population isn't doing well and it's counteracting my initial problem with the population not being concentrated enough.
We'll probably just swap back to the old map.
Fun. I cant wait. Maybe the major factions will even out again.
Outcast died when Doom went on break and Tom literally broke Outcast apart.
Quote from: Nik3 on 20-01-2012
Outcast died when Doom went on break and Tom literally broke Outcast apart.
Not to mention doom left FORP forever :/
Quote from: Longlostblake on 20-01-2012
Oh he finally realises then, this another failed decision? -__-
Trial and error, Blake. Trial and error. Not everything I come up with is a bad idea, nor is everything I come up with a good one.
In any case you already locked the topic so that's the end of that.