So here we are again [Community Discussion]

Started by Dragon, 08-08-2012

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Ragolution

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 10-08-2012
Quote from: ZainMenloe on 10-08-2012
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If anyone is seeking to become a hero, that means they're trying to hard and will probably get themselves killed doing something stupid.

There's a thin line between bravery and stupidity. If everyone is trying to be the hero, I'd expect there be some admins to beat them back and go "lol no back to the fields peasant". I said in my post above, absolutely NO ONE should be trying to be the hero! However, I said for admins to give occasional and realistic opportunities to be recognized as a hero. I think you missed our point.

Spades definitely got into the heart of my suggestions. It's about wanting to be a hero. It's about becoming one unexpectedly. Do badass things if it's in your character but people can tell when you're going out of your way to be a 'hero'. It's called bad acting and 'hamming it up.'

Alternatively, I'd love to see a Don Quixote kind of character who's REALLY cheesy and tries hard to be a hero like that.

TL;DR - You're only a hero when you realise heroic acts are only heroic because you're not trying to be heroic.

KingArthur

So... My assasin duel wileding fully automatic poison cross bow dragon slayer monk knight is not what we were looking for?

Steven :D

Quote from: KingArthur on 10-08-2012
So... My assasin duel wileding fully automatic poison cross bow dragon slayer monk knight is not what we were looking for?


KingArthur

Quote from: Steven :D on 10-08-2012
Quote from: KingArthur on 10-08-2012
So... My assasin duel wileding fully automatic poison cross bow dragon slayer monk knight is not what we were looking for?


He was also raised by dragons, to get revenge on the bandits that killed his family. But then ended up klilling the dragons and joining the bandits

Ragolution

Quote from: KingArthur on 10-08-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 10-08-2012
Quote from: KingArthur on 10-08-2012
So... My assasin duel wileding fully automatic poison cross bow dragon slayer monk knight is not what we were looking for?


He was also raised by dragons, to get revenge on the bandits that killed his family. But then ended up klilling the dragons and joining the bandits


Rebel6609

What people need is an every day struggle or advancement. Something that they have to overcome every day. Keeps things interesting ya know?

And yes, we need to throw a slightly more heavier influence on sides between good and evil. Maybe not off the bat, but sometime down the road. And I'm not talking about these powerful mages, or these Templar characters or priest knights that are really fucking powerful and kill the fun for the common rabble. I refuse to take part in a server that goes on a mage hunt every day, like when Paintcheck was around. No offense to him of course. I'm talking about Waring houses, The kings men versing an Orc encampment.. The towns militia or guards taking on invading bandits.. That sort of shit. Some thing that gives people a reason to work for one side and improve in said society. I fucking loved it when we had to deal with possessed bandits that raided the town. Was a ton of fun to lead my guardsmen and the towns citizens in a defense. EVERYONE took part in something they could succeed in.

I'm not saying scrap away all our mages and priest knights, but include them less and more of something the common player could partake in without being cast aside by players with complete unfair advantages.

And maybe we should also throw a focus on the crafting again. Not a heavy focus like were arming a force, but side work that we have dedicated masters to, who can help the younger people eek out a living with their professions.


<22:23:04> "Puffles": gofuckyourselfaggot
<22:25:12> You were banned for 5 hours from the server by "Cole" (For trolling)
Never in my life have I ever had to endure 9 yearolds calling me a banana picker, and then get banned afterwards for doing nothing wrong.
Promising Young admins.

Plunger

To everyone suggesting Lore, and Canon, we already have that stuff done, we just need people to come up with good events, and the like.

Bl★ck Star

#32
Quote from: Jake on 10-08-2012
Inb4 everyone's the dragonborn.
Fun Fact:
I earned the ooc title Dragonslut, because my char won the First Crussaria tournament and slayed the Dragon afterwards and the character was always bitchy and robbed everyone and got the whole town into thinking the guy I robbed was trying to rob me and everyone hauled him out of the town and he wasn't allowed to enter anymore.

Also if Crussaria is up again I'm going to start playing again, I hope I still own my shed.


Plunger

Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Jake on 10-08-2012
Inb4 everyone's the dragonborn.
Fun Fact:
I earned the ooc title Dragonslut, because my char won the First Crussaria tournament and slayed the Dragon afterwards and the character was always bitchy and robbed everyone and got the whole town into thinking the guy I robbed was trying to rob me and everyone hauled him out of the town and he wasn't allowed to enter anymore.

Also if Crussaria is up again I'm going to start playing again, I hope I still own my shed.
I won the PvP portion of the tournament, and helped slay the Dragon.

Bl★ck Star

Quote from: Plunger on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Jake on 10-08-2012
Inb4 everyone's the dragonborn.
Fun Fact:
I earned the ooc title Dragonslut, because my char won the First Crussaria tournament and slayed the Dragon afterwards and the character was always bitchy and robbed everyone and got the whole town into thinking the guy I robbed was trying to rob me and everyone hauled him out of the town and he wasn't allowed to enter anymore.

Also if Crussaria is up again I'm going to start playing again, I hope I still own my shed.
I won the PvP portion of the tournament, and helped slay the Dragon.

Yeah you won the PvP portion, I remember the 1v1 we had in the end, but after that was that PvE event where I won and Silver claimed me as a Winner overall and I got like 10.000 Gold and bought me a shack from that. Your char was that orkish one right ? Yeah we slayed the dragon together.


Plunger

Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Jake on 10-08-2012
Inb4 everyone's the dragonborn.
Fun Fact:
I earned the ooc title Dragonslut, because my char won the First Crussaria tournament and slayed the Dragon afterwards and the character was always bitchy and robbed everyone and got the whole town into thinking the guy I robbed was trying to rob me and everyone hauled him out of the town and he wasn't allowed to enter anymore.

Also if Crussaria is up again I'm going to start playing again, I hope I still own my shed.
I won the PvP portion of the tournament, and helped slay the Dragon.

Yeah you won the PvP portion, I remember the 1v1 we had in the end, but after that was that PvE event where I won and Silver claimed me as a Winner overall and I got like 10.000 Gold and bought me a shack from that. Your char was that orkish one right ? Yeah we slayed the dragon together.
Yeah I got the 10K too, it was on Bec.

Bl★ck Star

#36
Quote from: Plunger on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Jake on 10-08-2012
Inb4 everyone's the dragonborn.
Fun Fact:
I earned the ooc title Dragonslut, because my char won the First Crussaria tournament and slayed the Dragon afterwards and the character was always bitchy and robbed everyone and got the whole town into thinking the guy I robbed was trying to rob me and everyone hauled him out of the town and he wasn't allowed to enter anymore.

Also if Crussaria is up again I'm going to start playing again, I hope I still own my shed.
I won the PvP portion of the tournament, and helped slay the Dragon.

Yeah you won the PvP portion, I remember the 1v1 we had in the end, but after that was that PvE event where I won and Silver claimed me as a Winner overall and I got like 10.000 Gold and bought me a shack from that. Your char was that orkish one right ? Yeah we slayed the dragon together.
Yeah I got the 10K too, it was on Bec.

Oh you also got 10k ? Didn't knew that ^^

Count Plunger's and my Char in as remarkable Persons.


Steven :D

Quote from: Plunger on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Jake on 10-08-2012
Inb4 everyone's the dragonborn.
Fun Fact:
I earned the ooc title Dragonslut, because my char won the First Crussaria tournament and slayed the Dragon afterwards and the character was always bitchy and robbed everyone and got the whole town into thinking the guy I robbed was trying to rob me and everyone hauled him out of the town and he wasn't allowed to enter anymore.

Also if Crussaria is up again I'm going to start playing again, I hope I still own my shed.
I won the PvP portion of the tournament, and helped slay the Dragon.

The final pvp match was me vs you, Plunger. And you won in the end and then we split the prize and made the Adventurers Guild. Yes, I remember it all still so get your facts straight blackstar. Didn't you end up having somebody pk themselves after they tried to confess their love to you and you ignored them?


Bl★ck Star

#38
Quote from: Steven :D on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Jake on 10-08-2012
Inb4 everyone's the dragonborn.
Fun Fact:
I earned the ooc title Dragonslut, because my char won the First Crussaria tournament and slayed the Dragon afterwards and the character was always bitchy and robbed everyone and got the whole town into thinking the guy I robbed was trying to rob me and everyone hauled him out of the town and he wasn't allowed to enter anymore.

Also if Crussaria is up again I'm going to start playing again, I hope I still own my shed.
I won the PvP portion of the tournament, and helped slay the Dragon.

The final pvp match was me vs you, Plunger. And you won in the end and then we split the prize and made the Adventurers Guild. Yes, I remember it all still so get your facts straight blackstar. Didn't you end up having somebody pk themselves after they tried to confess their love to you and you ignored them?

Yes that too. Had more important stuff to do like robbing people and beeing stuck in a cave with Lizard men who tried to sell me as a slave.


I am not quite sure about the pvp event anymore, could be that I lost 1 round before the end match, but I am quite sure that I won the PvE event because I remember getting 10k gold winning money and bought me a Shed from that and I know I was one of the few who survived the Dragon attack and slayed him with Plunger.


Steven :D

Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Jake on 10-08-2012
Inb4 everyone's the dragonborn.
Fun Fact:
I earned the ooc title Dragonslut, because my char won the First Crussaria tournament and slayed the Dragon afterwards and the character was always bitchy and robbed everyone and got the whole town into thinking the guy I robbed was trying to rob me and everyone hauled him out of the town and he wasn't allowed to enter anymore.

Also if Crussaria is up again I'm going to start playing again, I hope I still own my shed.
I won the PvP portion of the tournament, and helped slay the Dragon.

The final pvp match was me vs you, Plunger. And you won in the end and then we split the prize and made the Adventurers Guild. Yes, I remember it all still so get your facts straight blackstar. Didn't you end up having somebody pk themselves after they tried to confess their love to you and you ignored them?

Yes that too. Had more important stuff to do like robbing people and beeing stuck in a cave with Lizard men who tried to sell me as a slave.


I am not quite sure about the pvp event anymore, could be that I lost 1round before the end match, but I am quite sure that I won the PvE event because I remember getting 10k gold winning money and bought me a Shed from that and I know I was one of the few who survived the Dragon attack and slayed him with Plunger.
You won the PvM event, you were the last survivor. Plunger won the PvP event, I was runner up. Then the dragon attacked and u spammed your bow on it then killed it, then everybody forgot about you the next day.


Bl★ck Star

Quote from: Steven :D on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 11-08-2012
Quote from: Jake on 10-08-2012
Inb4 everyone's the dragonborn.
Fun Fact:
I earned the ooc title Dragonslut, because my char won the First Crussaria tournament and slayed the Dragon afterwards and the character was always bitchy and robbed everyone and got the whole town into thinking the guy I robbed was trying to rob me and everyone hauled him out of the town and he wasn't allowed to enter anymore.

Also if Crussaria is up again I'm going to start playing again, I hope I still own my shed.
I won the PvP portion of the tournament, and helped slay the Dragon.

The final pvp match was me vs you, Plunger. And you won in the end and then we split the prize and made the Adventurers Guild. Yes, I remember it all still so get your facts straight blackstar. Didn't you end up having somebody pk themselves after they tried to confess their love to you and you ignored them?

Yes that too. Had more important stuff to do like robbing people and beeing stuck in a cave with Lizard men who tried to sell me as a slave.


I am not quite sure about the pvp event anymore, could be that I lost 1round before the end match, but I am quite sure that I won the PvE event because I remember getting 10k gold winning money and bought me a Shed from that and I know I was one of the few who survived the Dragon attack and slayed him with Plunger.
You won the PvM event, you were the last survivor. Plunger won the PvP event, I was runner up. Then the dragon attacked and u spammed your bow on it then killed it, then everybody forgot about you the next day.

I still got called Dragonslut a few days after.


Paintcheck

Quote from: Rebel6609 on 11-08-2012
What people need is an every day struggle or advancement. Something that they have to overcome every day. Keeps things interesting ya know?

And yes, we need to throw a slightly more heavier influence on sides between good and evil. Maybe not off the bat, but sometime down the road. And I'm not talking about these powerful mages, or these Templar characters or priest knights that are really fucking powerful and kill the fun for the common rabble. I refuse to take part in a server that goes on a mage hunt every day, like when Paintcheck was around. No offense to him of course. I'm talking about Waring houses, The kings men versing an Orc encampment.. The towns militia or guards taking on invading bandits.. That sort of shit. Some thing that gives people a reason to work for one side and improve in said society. I fucking loved it when we had to deal with possessed bandits that raided the town. Was a ton of fun to lead my guardsmen and the towns citizens in a defense. EVERYONE took part in something they could succeed in.

I'm not saying scrap away all our mages and priest knights, but include them less and more of something the common player could partake in without being cast aside by players with complete unfair advantages.

And maybe we should also throw a focus on the crafting again. Not a heavy focus like were arming a force, but side work that we have dedicated masters to, who can help the younger people eek out a living with their professions.

You mean the like two times there was a mage hunt? That was too much in several months of uptime? Yeah players totally were just cast aside for that the nerve of that being a server wide event twice. How dare Cutch and Zombiehunta and I do that? -_-

What amuses me most about this topic is everything Ragolution suggested was already in Crussaria during its period of success. Then people started whining about "dmnpcs " (probably because it meant the players couldn't be the "main character") so we tried the faction noble house thing which didn't work because the players didn't join them. This is an important issue that needs to be decided quickly and that people need to weigh in inn instead of being completely silent until things get really bad and then crying and playing the blame game instead of actually posting constructive stuff like what happened in April. Your complaints about mages being the story center were taken into account when the server was up 6 months ago and the result was the stagnant failure of the "factionalized" server. Maybe mages don't have to be the dmnpcs but the server was about a million times better when things were more individualized (like Rag suggests/like how it actually was) than trying to make medieval stalker or fallout factions.
The only regret I had regarding Crussaria was allowing the necromancer/demon shit. I was not going to let that happen originally but enough players asked for it I finally acquiesced and it turned into a clusterfuck. The first iteration of the magic war was a much better idea for a storyline in the eyes of most people who actually wrote the original lore/were the original "dmnpcs".


Pruneyboy

I remember trying this ages ago, guess I'll give it another go, don't let me down HGN
Get out dolan

Ragolution

I don't think anyone paid any attention to one of the points I made.

There really should be a good/evil side. The world is never so black and white. There's some things that are obviously evil like killing orphans but sometimes the motivation for ac-

You guys already know what I mean.

I just hate that there was always a clear and defined 'good' side in Crussaria. The most morally ambiguous factions are always the most fun.

ZainMenloe

Little note just for Rag's last post.

The 'sides' in Crussaria will both have thier reasons for doing what they are doing, it wont be like Madcombat's 'The Damned' shit, where the Overlord wanted to control the world or some shit. Hell no.

It will be like... Guards and Rebels. The king/lord/whatever puts in a new law or something for a reason. The rebels think this law is horrible and start fighting. (Note, this is a horrid, undetailed example, but it is till an example, hopefully you get the point.)

Vortigoat

Quote from: ZainMenloe on 12-08-2012
Little note just for Rag's last post.

The 'sides' in Crussaria will both have thier reasons for doing what they are doing, it wont be like Madcombat's 'The Damned' shit, where the Overlord wanted to control the world or some shit. Hell no.

It will be like... Guards and Rebels. The king/lord/whatever puts in a new law or something for a reason. The rebels think this law is horrible and start fighting. (Note, this is a horrid, undetailed example, but it is till an example, hopefully you get the point.)


And than the stormcloacks kill the Imperials there king and than all shit goes to hell, Am i right?

Plunger

Quote from: Ragolution on 12-08-2012
There really should be a good/evil side. The world is never so black and white. There's some things that are obviously evil like killing orphans but sometimes the motivation for ac-
I think you fucked up typing that.

Maxi96203

#47
i wanna serve house lannister pls

User has been given his second warning for this post. I hope it was worth it, Maxi


it is because you warn me and not others who troll threads
i mean it wasn't even trolling
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Ragolution

Quote from: Plunger on 13-08-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 12-08-2012
There really should be a good/evil side. The world is never so black and white. There's some things that are obviously evil like killing orphans but sometimes the motivation for ac-
I think you fucked up typing that.

yep

KingArthur