HyperGaming Network

*** has now merged into HyperGaming Network and as a result the community now has more resources to continue to provide quality servers and entertainment to people. There has been total revamps in the administration on how things are structured and we look forward to the new possibilities can come of this merger.

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We have many new servers in hgn from the merger and our previous servers will be making a return. The new divisions (Servers) inside hgn are as follows:

New Servers\Divisions:

Warbands: Napoleonic wars - [95th Kolberg Regiment]

Warbands Napoleonic wars - [Nr.59 Wartensleben Regiment]

EVE Online Corporation - Valor

A MineCraft Build Server

ARMA 2 - 4th Infantry Division "Raiders Brigade"


Returning servers:

Aceon will be replaced with a new minecraft roleplay server under a different theme\genre (more to come)

Caphori will be coming back however it may undergo redevelopment.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay will be returning. We will be looking for developers to code\map etc for the server. As well as new possible admin recruits.

Teamspeak 3 server: New IP: 192.187.121.250:1337

Best of luck to HGN, let's see how it holds up this time around!

this seems so dodgy
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Bump

The Arma 2 realism unit is a separate group. It ties with HGN but I am the only leader of it.

Contact me if you are interested though

Cool.
Really cool, actually. Looking forward to it.

Bump

Quote from: SilverKnight on 12-08-2013Bump

Jesus, Silver. Just sticky it already.

lol'd

Quote from: Jａkｅ on 11-08-2013this seems so dodgy
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My opinions on the matter, here. In a nutshell. ^

Call me pessimistic, but I'm concerned that the same old cycle will occur. Older players know precisely what I'm on about, but newer players don't need to worry their pretty little heads because if it doesn't happen what they don't know won't hurt them.

But SilverKnight, if you want this rebirth to be successful, you're going to have to put some trust in others to help administrate it. One man can't do the job of hosting a community with over 8000 registered members, 16,000 topics in its history, 93 people online just today... Long story short I hope you're ready to put some faith in someone else to take a position capable of maintaining and updating the servers that isn't just you.

If STALKER came back, I'd be happy to pay a visit if the game mode was back to what it used to be, and not what we first saw in Gmod 13. The script, the SWEPs, everything about it was a mistake. A nice attempt at something new, but they say don't fix what isn't broken.

Still, a good script will only get us so far. A good community will be what allows HGN to live or die.

Quote from: D33tly on 12-08-2013

Silver, how much are you getting paid for this? If nothing, you are a horrible Jew.

You used to be a champion Jew, taking people's money.

How the mighty Jews have fallen.

http://www.thewhirlingwind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/WWII_jewish_propaganda.jpg (http://www.thewhirlingwind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/WWII_jewish_propaganda.jpg)

Silverknight

Champion of the Jews 2008-2013

I don't get paid to do HGN and never have and i have spent several thousand pounds of my own money over the last 6 years up-keeping HyperGaming Network with minor help from donations. Clearly you are a stupid anti-Semitic idiot and don't belong here.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013My opinions on the matter, here. In a nutshell. ^ Call me pessimistic, but I'm concerned that the same old cycle will occur. Older players know precisely what I'm on about, but newer players don't need to worry their pretty little heads because if it doesn't happen what they don't know won't hurt them. But SilverKnight, if you want this rebirth to be successful, you're going to have to put some trust in others to help administrate it. One man can't do the job of hosting a community with over 8000 registered members, 16,000 topics in its history, 93 people online just today... Long story short I hope you're ready to put some faith in someone else to take a position capable of maintaining and updating the servers that isn't just you. If STALKER came back, I'd be happy to pay a visit if the game mode was back to what it used to be, and not what we first saw in Gmod 13. The script, the SWEPs, everything about it was a mistake. A nice attempt at something new, but they say don't fix what isn't broken. Still, a good script will only get us so far. A good community will be what allows HGN to live or die.

Don't worry. With the merger we also have more admins that will be working and more that will be recruited.
We will also need suggestions for new servers and games to get involved into.

So TL:DR

DO NEED:
Admins
Active Community Input
Constructive Critism


DON'T NEED:
Assholes
Trolls
Pessimists

Quote from: SilverKnight on 12-08-2013

Quote from: D33tly on 12-08-2013

Silver, how much are you getting paid for this? If nothing, you are a horrible Jew.

You used to be a champion Jew, taking people's money.

How the mighty Jews have fallen.

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Silverknight

Champion of the Jews 2008-2013

I don't get paid to do HGN and never have and i have spent several thousand pounds of my own money over the last 6 years up-keeping HyperGaming Network with minor help from donations. Clearly you are a stupid anti-Semitic idiot and don't belong here.

Silver, didn't you buy a Moped scooter-thing with the donations of the server? I remember you mentioning that once before on TS. Also, I'm just saying that Thanatos and Brandon Lent alone had given you over 700 dollars in donations. Much more than that actually! I dono how much money it takes to run a server; but you have made money in the bank with all of those donations; but from donations, from the list alone on the server you've made ATLEAST $8100 not including everyone's other donations for models and things to be imported and weapons and such.  You see, when you say thousands of your own pounds and your own money, it just kind of confuses me. I thought anything donated was for the server and to keep the community together. Putting it that way, I just feel like that would have been enough to keep the servers running and be maintained. 


Maybe I'm just speaking out of my ass.
 
Going on, I'll have to agree with Spades for once. You have to let your admins do things, without them having to put you in a triple german suplex headlock to get a little bit of change. And when I mean a little bit I mean a lot; I just hope people won't have to donate three million dollars to be a mutant on a server again! I'm not trying to be pessimistic, I'm just really hoping things change so they work out for you.  Best of luck especially to the fellahs who are merging with HGN.




lots of good luck

Quote from: Roy on 12-08-2013DON'T NEED:
Assholes
Trolls
Pessimists

This will be the tricky part. Not impossible at all, but it requires a policy change I have not yet seen. After all, it's not a difficult concept. No jerks, no trolls. Problem is I've seen too much strict decisions based upon rules and policy of administration instead of human judgement based on the current situations. Such as a player who is miserably bad at roleplaying, has no interest in learning, may very well be doing it on purpose, may even BRAG about pissing people off OOCly in the community, but isn't actually breaking any of the written rules. These people get banned, then later unbanned because "what did they do wrong?" And by then either everyone has forgotten and moved on, or there's some stupid technicality that allows them to exploit a loophole. Then, in my case, as a former admin I've been disgusted by the lack of trust I was given as a Server Supervisor and yet I still had to provide PROOF of something done wrong. Video, screenshots, logs, and often that still didn't get bans on certain people even after several offenses. I mean, to be fair, it's entirely possible that an administrator might just have an unfair grudge against another player, and it's entirely possible an admin just might have crappy patience (as was my case after a while) but then that should be when other admins, even lower-ranking admins, should group together and speak up. For example, I got pretty ban happy because I was convinced all new players were just trying to troll when they just didn't know any better. My subordinates stepped up and said, "Spades, let us handle the new players. You're reacting too harshly." And I did. They turned out to be right, too. But conversely, what about when an entire administration team is having problems with one individual or a group of individuals that consistently drive off new players, only to have a leadership position such as SilverKnight or even just the SV of a server be the only one able to decide, "No, they get an unban"?

I want that to stop. Whoever is administrator now should not have to bring down an investigation equivocating the capacity of an FBI office to get a ban. That's what we had going on before. Ultimately, SilverKnight still has the final say. They are his servers. It is not a democracy. We're not going to be able to stage a bloody revolution and storm the gates of the citadel and usurp the dictator. To be completely honest, I don't think SilverKnight was really even fully aware of the problems going on, because he'd often time hear one side of the story from the first people who got a hold of him. I don't think he did it on purpose. That would be absurd and illogical. Yet, there was formerly very little trust of good admins and very good trust in poor admins. The trust should be in the majority of an administration team, or of the community. Sort of like a President, SilverKnight still has the power to veto a law, but it is Congress (all the other admins) who write the laws. At least, that is how I would like to see it. A democratic monarchy! If we're sticking to the theme of citadels and knights and stuff.

tl;dr

All and all, the process its self is easy. The adaption of attitude to that change is what isn't so easy. Hopefully this nearly year long deadspell of HGN has put a lesson through that wasn't learned before. If it has, then we're golden. If it isn't, well, yea. It'll just die again. But all this has yet to be seen. I shall await the results with an unbiased eye. Pessimism turns into stupidity if things end up going well and I hypothetically keep whining about what could go wrong.

If I see a real change, and I can't believe I'm actually saying this, because I said "NO" for almost a year, I wouldn't mind being recruited again as some kind of administrator purely for the ability to create events again.

On a related note to that last sentence, that was fun. In fact, on a related note, I wish there was a server rank without ban abilities that you could apply for that gave you temporary "game master" powers to create events, spawn items, etc, while the admin doesn't need to tear his focus between keeping the players from breaking rules and hosting the event. We did that once actually. I hosted an event on STALKER with Goose, ThY and I think Tom overseeing it while I zipped around in noclip pretending to be a poltergeist.

Oh how we fucked with people that day. That was a beautiful day. I miss that. Everyone loved that RP just as much as I loved pulling the strings. Even the people who got killed loved it. Every community has its ups and downs, so I'll end this on a positive note.... I want to do another event like that with fresh vict--I mean players.

EDIT: Nevermind. This is an awful idea (the crossed-out text). Too open to abuse. Jake is correct about this. I thought about saying "Why don't you just have an admin watch over them?" when I realized, "Why the hell doesn't the admin just do it himself then?" So my point is moot.

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Quote from: SilverKnight on 12-08-2013

Quote from: D33tly on 12-08-2013

Silver, how much are you getting paid for this? If nothing, you are a horrible Jew.

You used to be a champion Jew, taking people's money.

How the mighty Jews have fallen.

http://www.thewhirlingwind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/WWII_jewish_propaganda.jpg (http://www.thewhirlingwind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/WWII_jewish_propaganda.jpg)

Silverknight

Champion of the Jews 2008-2013

I don't get paid to do HGN and never have and i have spent several thousand pounds of my own money over the last 6 years up-keeping HyperGaming Network with minor help from donations. Clearly you are a stupid anti-Semitic idiot and don't belong here.

Silver, didn't you buy a Moped scooter-thing with the donations of the server? I remember you mentioning that once before on TS.

This is untrue. I did get a motorbike for my b-day from my parents 3 years ago, however someone thought they would make a stupid joke that i got it with donations, i guess several people believed it but then again others have believed that i was Cutches son previously so many people appear to be guilable on teamspeak. 

The donations i received all went on the box, webhosting and domains including my own money. People fail to realize that we needed around $145 a month to keep HGN running. 

However donations will no longer be needed to the same extent as before as the running costs are much less so all donation packages we had will be reduced so people can enjoy the roleplay more. I will be posting another announcement soon to explain the various changes that HGN is undergoing.

While skepticism on the part of our veteran players is understood and expected, please understand that there is much more to our planned structure than what you may think. It will be confusing at first, but there is nothing to fear as no single person will wield too much power. Silverknight has agreed that he does not desire to micromanage administration anymore, and will sit out on the day-to-day activities of running the community.

Thank you for your understanding,
Cutch
Head of Personnel
HyperGaming Network

I'll be honest. The scooter thing is silly.

But we're still going to joke that you spent the donation money on a scooter, knowing full well this is probably false information. :D

Quote from: Cutch on 12-08-2013While skepticism on the part of our veteran players is understood and expected, please understand that there is much more to our planned structure than what you may think. It will be confusing at first, but there is nothing to fear as no single person will wield too much power. Silverknight has agreed that he does not desire to micromanage administration anymore, and will sit out on the day-to-day activities of running the community. Thank you for your understanding, Cutch Head of Personnel HyperGaming Network

This is good news though.

Well, hopefully things are better than they were before then. I'll have to see it to believe though.

Quote from: Cutch on 12-08-2013While skepticism on the part of our veteran players is understood and expected, please understand that there is much more to our planned structure than what you may think. It will be confusing at first, but there is nothing to fear as no single person will wield too much power. Silverknight has agreed that he does not desire to micromanage administration anymore, and will sit out on the day-to-day activities of running the community. Thank you for your understanding, Cutch Head of Personnel HyperGaming Network

I think the father had a talk with his son.
please dont ban me

Quote from: D33tly on 12-08-2013

Silver, how much are you getting paid for this? If nothing, you are a horrible Jew.

You used to be a champion Jew, taking people's money.

How the mighty Jews have fallen.

http://www.thewhirlingwind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/WWII_jewish_propaganda.jpg (http://www.thewhirlingwind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/WWII_jewish_propaganda.jpg)

Silverknight

Champion of the Jews 2008-2013

Good goy! Think that Silverknight is an evil jew boss while I count the shekels I've stolen from HGN treasury haueahuahua.
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Wait, Spades? Is it really that time of the year?

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Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013But SilverKnight, if you want this rebirth to be successful, you're going to have to put some trust in others to help administrate it. One man can't do the job of hosting a community with over 8000 registered members, 16,000 topics in its history, 93 people online just today... Long story short I hope you're ready to put some faith in someone else to take a position capable of maintaining and updating the servers that isn't just you.

Really. I wonder who would you want to get this power? Your semi-positive/enthusiastic tone in that post, combined with how you want to portray yourself as a hardcore HGN veteran in the beginning and later throw in buzzphrases that mean literally nothing(we both know that), tells me your intentions aren't properly presented in that post. Think I am paranoid? Let's read on.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013

Quote from: Roy on 12-08-2013DON'T NEED: Assholes Trolls Pessimists

This will be the tricky part. Not impossible at all, but it requires a policy change I have not yet seen. After all, it's not a difficult concept. No jerks, no trolls. Problem is I've seen too much strict decisions based upon rules and policy of administration instead of human judgement based on the current situations. Such as a player who is miserably bad at roleplaying, has no interest in learning, may very well be doing it on purpose, may even BRAG about pissing people off OOCly in the community,

So you start off your second post with a lie. You first state that server policies can somehow prevent assholes from being assholes, trolls from being trolls, etc. Then you state exactly the contrary in the same paragraph, in the next sentence after you state it's impossible. To anyone that  hasn't caught on; assholes will be assholes. How many times in the rules(of other servers) you've seen: "Don't be an asshole" and tell me how often does that work.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013
Then, in my case, as a former admin I've been disgusted by the lack of trust I was given as a Server Supervisor and yet I still had to provide PROOF of something done wrong. Video, screenshots, logs, and often that still didn't get bans on certain people even after several offenses.

Lack of trust? I hope your way of diverting attention to a completely irrelevant(and imaginary) issue in order to hide your real intentions hasn't been noticed only by me. Although since I've been one of those "certain" people, I can tell you exactly how it worked on Fallout RP that was administrated by the oh-so-oppressed Spades Neil: you get banned if you state anything negative or critical about him or his fat internet girlfriend Caso. The latter roleplaying as a half-deathclaw character that I "authorized" when times were a bit difficult. What Spades did to get her that character was this: cry about oppression, cry how I'm a despotical asshole, etc. This is exactly what he's doing now with all this "OY VEY, MAI POWER RITES ARE BEING OPRESSD!". Of course he to this day likes to say how I passionately auth'd Caso to imply my fault.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013
I mean, to be fair, it's entirely possible that an administrator might just have an unfair grudge against another player

HAHA. Of course you know that, Spades. Let's not talk about the amount of times I(there were countless others) was permabanned simply because you didn't like me and not a single strike that was shoved onto me was legitimate. To those that don't know/remember. We had a strike system that worked like this: 1 strike - kick/temp ban, 2 strike - kick/temp ban, 3 strike - pban. I had 2 strikes(from bias) and there were admins like Spades who would try and get the third one by reporting me for literally the stupidest or imaginary shit. Dark Angel(an ally of Spades) reported me once for "money farming" despite me being on the server  for like 5 minutes and the paycheck was 90 rubles. The rate was 1hr/90 rubles.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013
But conversely, what about when an entire administration team is having problems with one individual or a group of individuals that consistently drive off new players, only to have a leadership position such as SilverKnight or even just the SV of a server be the only one able to decide, "No, they get an unban"? I want that to stop.

So Caso and her half-deathclaw adventures didn't drive off anybody? Maybe except for the entire Fallout playerbase and all HGN regulars who hated that shit?
I want you to stop, Spades.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013
Whoever is administrator now should not have to bring down an investigation equivocating the capacity of an FBI office to get a ban. That's what we had going on before. Ultimately, SilverKnight still has the final say. They are his servers. It is not a democracy. We're not going to be able to stage a bloody revolution and storm the gates of the citadel and usurp the dictator. To be completely honest, I don't think SilverKnight was really even fully aware of the problems going on, because he'd often time hear one side of the story from the first people who got a hold of him. I don't think he did it on purpose. That would be absurd and illogical. Yet, there was formerly very little trust of good admins and very good trust in poor admins. The trust should be in the majority of an administration team, or of the community.

More talk about the admin oppression. Yes, you totally have an idea of that when you were able to wrongfully permaban me and several other people without having to meet any kind of protest from the administration or Silverknight.

I believe admins should have more rights because that's the problem and I'm not projecting any kind of behavior myself!! The evil dictatorship of Silverknight should give us the power, but hey it's his servers so in the end none of this matters, I'm just writing useless shit so that the entire point could be distorted and my fault to be ignored. That would be completely unthinkable and illogical. The bad admins were always given support and the good admins never any, I AM NOT NAMING ANYBODY BECAUSE I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING. LOOK AT MY GOD DAMN POST AND SEE THE AMOUNT OF EXAMPLES I'VE GIVEN -- NONE.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013
A democratic monarchy! If we're sticking to the theme of citadels and knights and stuff. tl;dr All and all, the process its self is easy. The adaption of attitude to that change is what isn't so easy. Hopefully this nearly year long deadspell of HGN has put a lesson through that wasn't learned before. If it has, then we're golden.

Everybody welcome Spades and his Liberation crew. They will give us prosperity through freedom! Shake off the clutches of oppression and authoritarianism!
The reason for what you call a 'deadspell of HGN' is because opportunists like you seem to end up in the admin team all the time. Do you really think there's a meaning to what you're saying? Your post doesn't include a point that is backed up by real examples. So far it's been 'Oppression here, Bad Admins there'. Also, it's called constitutional monarchy.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013
If I see a real change, and I can't believe I'm actually saying this, because I said "NO" for almost a year, I wouldn't mind being recruited again as some kind of administrator

Ohhhh, please, Spades, don't be so nice to us evil HGNers! You're making me blush, Spades-Chan! We really can't handle your ~progressive~ and democratic thought.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013
I wish there was a server rank without ban abilities that you could apply for that gave you temporary "game master" powers to create events, spawn items, etc, while the admin doesn't need to tear his focus between keeping the players from breaking rules and hosting the event.

Yes! Yes!!! Take the special title of "GAME MASTER OF ADMIN EVENTS SUPER IMPORTANT PERSON", item-spawning abilities which you certainly will never abuse(let's not open up the history book here), all other super-admin abilities. Because those mistreated admins really need your progressive help! And finally a special forum rank JUST FOR YOU, SPADES.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013
We did that once actually. I hosted an event on STALKER with Goose, ThY and I think Tom overseeing it while I zipped around in noclip pretending to be a poltergeist. Oh how we fucked with people that day. That was a beautiful day. I miss that. Everyone loved that RP just as much as I loved pulling the strings. Even the people who got killed loved it. Every community has its ups and downs, so I'll end this on a positive note.... I want to do another event like that with fresh vict--I mean players.

Ohh! You mean the event where you killed me literally for no reason and didn't allow me to come back after me providing evidence of bias? Yeah, man, that event was so fucking great you can't believe it.

Spades just don't bother anymore. Your presence is too democratic for us. #rekt

Simple solution:

Spades stop being a pessimistic asshole in threads like this (Or at all). You're not an oldfag you cant talk about old times or relate to them. 

Jake stop making personal attacks. Spades poses a good point, so do you. But dont make it personal.

Also, I would like to remind everyone who Spades Neil is and what kind of an interesting character he is.
He made a video where he's basically having a philosophical debate with a bunch of dolls(read: rape) and uses a giant pink mobile phone to do that. Spades removed the video after Plunger found it and others here made a meme out of it. Full thread at http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/the-gay-vamp-castle/neil%27s-sex-dungeon/25/#quickreply (http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/the-gay-vamp-castle/neil%27s-sex-dungeon/25/#quickreply)

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I ar wiff u spades nell.

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Quote from: SilverKnight on 12-08-2013

Quote from: D33tly on 12-08-2013

Silver, how much are you getting paid for this? If nothing, you are a horrible Jew.

You used to be a champion Jew, taking people's money.

How the mighty Jews have fallen.

http://www.thewhirlingwind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/WWII_jewish_propaganda.jpg (http://www.thewhirlingwind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/WWII_jewish_propaganda.jpg)

Silverknight

Champion of the Jews 2008-2013

I don't get paid to do HGN and never have and i have spent several thousand pounds of my own money over the last 6 years up-keeping HyperGaming Network with minor help from donations. Clearly you are a stupid anti-Semitic idiot and don't belong here.

Silver, didn't you buy a Moped scooter-thing with the donations of the server? I remember you mentioning that once before on TS. Also, I'm just saying that Thanatos and Brandon Lent alone had given you over 700 dollars in donations. Much more than that actually! I dono how much money it takes to run a server; but you have made money in the bank with all of those donations; but from donations, from the list alone on the server you've made ATLEAST $8100 not including everyone's other donations for models and things to be imported and weapons and such. You see, when you say thousands of your own pounds and your own money, it just kind of confuses me. I thought anything donated was for the server and to keep the community together. Putting it that way, I just feel like that would have been enough to keep the servers running and be maintained. Maybe I'm just speaking out of my ass. Going on, I'll have to agree with Spades for once. You have to let your admins do things, without them having to put you in a triple german suplex headlock to get a little bit of change. And when I mean a little bit I mean a lot; I just hope people won't have to donate three million dollars to be a mutant on a server again! I'm not trying to be pessimistic, I'm just really hoping things change so they work out for you. Best of luck especially to the fellahs who are merging with HGN. lots of good luck

There are a lot of legitimate to hate HGN, but unfortunately people become fixated on all the wrong reasons. I've gone through the HGN invoices for the server, and donations, and even I was a sceptic before, but it turns out that the donation money actually was just under the total cost to run the servers. The moped thing was a joke in HGN that everyone made about the donation money, I would know because I was one of the people who initially spread it, except it was a motorcycle instead of a moped.

And on the subject of legitimate complaints about HGN, Spades has no reason to complain about the administrative dealings going on in HGN because he was one of the many problem admins that this community developed over the years. Any admin that holds grudges, and personal vendettas doesn't deserve to hold an administrative position, especially when it starts to cross between servers. I mean for crying out loud, you're one of the people who attempted to start a mass exodus from the community in order to get the people you hate banned, that's not being a dedicated community member it's being a dissenter.

Well if that was a joke then I pull my statement back about the whole scooter thing or whateverthefuck it was. I really do hope that HGN can get back on its feet but I don't exactly want to be around for it. Not sure why Spades tho is putting so much effort into this thread.



not like I have room to talk though.

Quote from: CC on 13-08-2013why Spades tho is putting so much effort into this thread.

He literally said why.

QuoteI wouldn't mind being recruited again as some kind of administrator. I wish there was a server rank without ban abilities that you could apply for that gave you temporary "game master" powers to create events, spawn items, etc.

Oh wowee, thanks for saving me the time of reading it!

Quote from: CC on 13-08-2013Oh wowee, thanks for saving me the time of reading it!

You're welcome.

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All hail HGN the Cuba of communitys!

Quote from: Zen on 13-08-2013(https://forums.hypergamer.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-SICsTGp35Ig%2FTs6x-M-3CGI%2FAAAAAAAA0Ic%2FJZqYfpAmqjA%2Fs320%2FCuba_Flag4.jpg&hash=1be69d916909b088e1792c5ea4f2ecffa534fc11) All hail HGN the Cuba of communitys!

I am El Presidente? Welcome to Tropico.

Quote from: Zen on 13-08-2013(https://forums.hypergamer.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-SICsTGp35Ig%2FTs6x-M-3CGI%2FAAAAAAAA0Ic%2FJZqYfpAmqjA%2Fs320%2FCuba_Flag4.jpg&hash=1be69d916909b088e1792c5ea4f2ecffa534fc11) All hail HGN the Cuba of communitys!

And now I know why he changed his steam nam

Lets rework everything!

*Get everyone who gave up with hgn years ago together and get them to lead shit because they obviously care*

Initiate SRP Circlejerk 2.0


Dont want to seem pessimistic but yeah, I dont think anything is gonna change. People pulling the strings are just gonna disappear and we players (Yeah, there were actually few of us too) will be once again left to sit on the server waiting for the 'muricans to make events because as we all know, muricans make the best admins and we dont need anyone from EU.

Just please, don't get Goose into this.

I'm just going to put my post in spoiler, because it's just too big for pleasant viewing for anyone who doesn't give a damn about my replying to Jake and Blake.

Quote from: Jａkｅ on 13-08-2013
Really. I wonder who would you want to get this power? Your semi-positive/enthusiastic tone in that post, combined with how you want to portray yourself as a hardcore HGN veteran in the beginning and later throw in buzzphrases that mean literally nothing(we both know that), tells me your intentions aren't properly presented in that post. Think I am paranoid? Let's read on.

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Who would get this power? Not me. Not only would I not want the job, it'd be incredibly stupid to give me this job what with me going away to college again in October. When I do, let's hypothetically say that SilverKnight said "Hey Spades, you want (position of power)?" and I said yes, then I'd be inactive for months and months and months and months at a time.

But I understand why you'd think this way. Just under the circumstances that you're not aware of, that's silly.

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So you start off your second post with a lie. You first state that server policies can somehow prevent assholes from being assholes, trolls from being trolls, etc. Then you state exactly the contrary in the same paragraph, in the next sentence after you state it's impossible. To anyone that  hasn't caught on; assholes will be assholes. How many times in the rules(of other servers) you've seen: "Don't be an asshole" and tell me how often does that work.

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Okay good point. Not gonna lie.

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Lack of trust? I hope your way of diverting attention to a completely irrelevant(and imaginary) issue in order to hide your real intentions hasn't been noticed only by me. Although since I've been one of those "certain" people, I can tell you exactly how it worked on Fallout RP that was administrated by the oh-so-oppressed Spades Neil: you get banned if you state anything negative or critical about him or his fat internet girlfriend Caso. The latter roleplaying as a half-deathclaw character that I "authorized" when times were a bit difficult. What Spades did to get her that character was this: cry about oppression, cry how I'm a despotical asshole, etc. This is exactly what he's doing now with all this "OY VEY, MAI POWER RITES ARE BEING OPRESSD!". Of course he to this day likes to say how I passionately auth'd Caso to imply my fault.

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First, I'm really surprised to haven't noticed the issue I'm referring to. Maybe it all really is in my head? To be fair I do have my own history of losing patience with the overall playerbase after a certain point, which I did mention. So perhaps it is in my head.

Second, you were SV when Caso happened. Not me. Just saying.

Caso also went away as a character when you left your position. Also, just saying.

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HAHA. Of course you know that, Spades. Let's not talk about the amount of times I(there were countless others) was permabanned simply because you didn't like me and not a single strike that was shoved onto me was legitimate. To those that don't know/remember. We had a strike system that worked like this: 1 strike - kick/temp ban, 2 strike - kick/temp ban, 3 strike - pban. I had 2 strikes(from bias) and there were admins like Spades who would try and get the third one by reporting me for literally the stupidest or imaginary shit. Dark Angel(an ally of Spades) reported me once for "money farming" despite me being on the server  for like 5 minutes and the paycheck was 90 rubles. The rate was 1hr/90 rubles.

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Trying to defend your legitimacy I see? Well I don't remember you being on my list of people who needed to be permabanned off FORP. You just didn't go there anymore after you lost/gave up (I forget which) your SV position. You were never banned. You never broke any notable rules there that I remember.

I won't speak for Dark Angel. I do however know I've seen you break rules on STALKER like logging out when an anomaly catches you to avoid getting killed. The money farming thing I vaguely recall and if DA gave you a strike for that, I find that kind of absurd.

But who am I kidding? It's your word verses mine. I could say you DRMed the shit out of the server one day (which, as far as I know, is a complete lie) and neither of us could prove it either way. So I'll let the experience of past STALKER admins speak about Dark Angel.

By the way, I fired Dark Angel from her Fallout admin position. To be fair I see why this individual was problematic.

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So Caso and her half-deathclaw adventures didn't drive off anybody? Maybe except for the entire Fallout playerbase and all HGN regulars who hated that shit?
I want you to stop, Spades.

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Mixed feelings about how to respond to this. On the one hand, "Well YOU were SV at the time." On the other hand, I did find myself enjoying the RPs. Not gonna lie. Regardless, Caso went away as a character once I was told to take over.

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More talk about the admin oppression. Yes, you totally have an idea of that when you were able to wrongfully permaban me and several other people without having to meet any kind of protest from the administration or Silverknight.

I believe admins should have more rights because that's the problem and I'm not projecting any kind of behavior myself!! The evil dictatorship of Silverknight should give us the power, but hey it's his servers so in the end none of this matters, I'm just writing useless shit so that the entire point could be distorted and my fault to be ignored. That would be completely unthinkable and illogical. The bad admins were always given support and the good admins never any, I AM NOT NAMING ANYBODY BECAUSE I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING. LOOK AT MY GOD DAMN POST AND SEE THE AMOUNT OF EXAMPLES I'VE GIVEN -- NONE.

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Ever consider that I don't give names because it's irrelevant as fuck and would only start drama and shitstorms to name names? Especially if these same admins are brought back into the community and turn out not to be as bad as I thought.

But now you and I are at an impassé. You call bullshit because I won't name names and use it to try to discredit me. I refuse to name names because I am not interested in starting shit.

Do you really want me to bring up names? I can go down that route. I'd rather not, at least not in public, but I could.

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Everybody welcome Spades and his Liberation crew. They will give us prosperity through freedom! Shake off the clutches of oppression and authoritarianism!
The reason for what you call a 'deadspell of HGN' is because opportunists like you seem to end up in the admin team all the time. Do you really think there's a meaning to what you're saying? Your post doesn't include a point that is backed up by real examples. So far it's been 'Oppression here, Bad Admins there'. Also, it's called constitutional monarchy.

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First, like I said earlier, I'd literally be the worst person to have as an admin. I've turned down any admin position I've yet been offered since my leaving Fallout. Even if Fallout came back up, and may the record hold me to these words, I would NOT join the server as an admin. Not unless I wasn't going to college and there was significant change to entice me to do so. The same is also true for STALKER.

Fact of the matter is, I don't want to be an admin.

Hey, Silverknight, you reading this? Because I have a gut feeling you'll ask me if you don't have anyone better for the job. (God, what does that say about me?) You listening? Don't. Ask. Me. To. Be. An. Admin. Let me finish college, come home, see HGN is still running nicely...

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Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013
If I see a real change, and I can't believe I'm actually saying this, because I said "NO" for almost a year, I wouldn't mind being recruited again as some kind of administrator

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... And then we'll talk.

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Ohhhh, please, Spades, don't be so nice to us evil HGNers! You're making me blush, Spades-Chan! We really can't handle your ~progressive~ and democratic thought.

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But to be fair I can see where you'd get the vibe that I'm jumping at a chance to power. That is pretty commonplace around here. First off, I don't expect to see the "change" I speak of within a measly two months, which is how long it'll be before I go to college. I'm talking more like next summer when, if HGN is doing well, probably won't need me anyway.

Seriously, can any of you with a straight face say I was "THE BEST HGN ADMIN EVUR!" because a lot of you seem to think I honestly believe I was.

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Quote from: Spades_Neil on 12-08-2013
I wish there was a server rank without ban abilities that you could apply for that gave you temporary "game master" powers to create events, spawn items, etc, while the admin doesn't need to tear his focus between keeping the players from breaking rules and hosting the event.

Yes! Yes!!! Take the special title of "GAME MASTER OF ADMIN EVENTS SUPER IMPORTANT PERSON", item-spawning abilities which you certainly will never abuse(let's not open up the history book here), all other super-admin abilities. Because those mistreated admins really need your progressive help! And finally a special forum rank JUST FOR YOU, SPADES.

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Eh. The more I think about it, the more I realize you're probably right here. The only reason a part of me even wants a kind of "admin" position is not for the ability to ban or kick or all the other stuff one thinks of when they talk about admins. I just want the creative power. That's why I wanted to create a simple, private Fallout RP server so a few friends and I could play in it. AND SO I COULD HAVE ALL THE CASO I WANTED HURR HURR HURR *shot*

But, like I said, the more I think about it, the solution to the problem you state is, "Well have an admin watch over them!" to which comes the dilemma; "... Then why the fuck don't we have an admin just do it themselves?" Which renders my idea absolutely pointless.

Alright, so nevermind that idea.

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Ohh! You mean the event where you killed me literally for no reason and didn't allow me to come back after me providing evidence of bias? Yeah, man, that event was so fucking great you can't believe it.

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It was stated ICly to stay in a group. You chose to run off ahead. You were killed. Other people were also killed before and after you left but you act like we singled you out because we hate you. Yea sure Jake. That was totally the case. Ask Hitman or Kropfi or whoever else was on the event. I fucking hate those guys, don't I? That's why I play games like ArmA 2 with them and have many laughs and merrymaking. But really, stop whining because you lost out on all that GEAR. Everyone else enjoyed the event except you.

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Spades just don't bother anymore. Your presence is too democratic for us. #rekt

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DEMOCRACY! /sarcasm

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Quote from: Blake.H on 13-08-2013
You're not an oldfag you cant talk about old times or relate to them.

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I don't recall having tried to declare myself an "oldfag" or trying to relate to any times I wasn't a part of. If I did, please point out the part of my post where I did and I shall either explain or withdraw the statement.

Did I reference the glory days of STALKER RP in 2008 or something? As in, the shit I was never here for? Not trying to sound condescending or sarcastic at all. Be honest with me. What part of my statement made you feel that way? Because that's insulting to people who were ACTUALLY around before me if I'm acting like some kind of oldfag who "remembers the glory days".[/spoiler]

Quote from: Nik3 on 13-08-2013
(...) we players will be once again left to sit on the server waiting for the 'muricans to make events because as we all know, muricans make the best admins and we dont need anyone from EU.

I was actually never aware this was an issue for European users, but it's a good point. This might be a helpful idea.

Also, am I the only one that the spoiler tag doesn't work for or is the forum just bugging out? Sorry for the double post but the spoiler tag is stuck open for me.

I was trying to reduce the amount of eye-bleeding text for people who frankly didn't give a damn.

Warbands: Napoleonic wars - [95th Kolberg Regiment] DONT HAVE

Warbands Napoleonic wars - [Nr.59 Wartensleben Regiment] LOOK ABOVE

EVE Online Corporation - Valor WISH I HAD ENOUGH TIME

A MineCraft Build Server ... Meh.

ARMA 2 - 4th Infantry Division "Raiders Brigade" And BattleEye Banned me after raging, stating that I will hack someone.

Yes, Spades.
That was a problem for a long time. I know quite alot of people even from Finland that would've loved to play on SRP and FORP at the time, but the lack of admins in EU time just drove everyone away to other communities where administrator status was given to people based on their "admin skills", not because they threaten to leave the community (see: Sharrock). Dark Scar/Neshy was literally the only active admin from EU, I did adress this issue several times, but nothing happened, so dont say that I should've talked about the issue.
As I have said before, little things matter. Personally tho I had enough when Silver didnt do jackshit about Sharrock and his butt buddies fucking up SRP by spawning gear and lolwinning the game coz adminpowers.

Text might seem hostile but its not, I love u all.

Except we did have admins in the European timezones, just they were shit. ThY couldn't admin if his life depended on it, Dark Angel abused her/his powers more then anyone else, Blake couldn't be left alone for five minutes without something troubling starting, and the others didn't have enough power.

Was Dark Angel that  beastiality loving admin?

Quote from: Plunger on 14-08-2013
Except we did have admins in the European timezones, just they were shit. ThY couldn't admin if his life depended on it, Dark Angel abused her/his powers more then anyone else, Blake couldn't be left alone for five minutes without something troubling starting, and the others didn't have enough power.

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HGN hasn't even launched its "new improved SRP" and "oldfags" are already making it look bad. GG no-re

Same old shit happening. It's particularly this reason why HGN dragging itself across the floor. People in this community hate each other and throw blame around on each other like they're a bunch of japs trying to defend their fucking honor. Because of this, the community split into several groups being headed by several admins that all contradicted each other. You all make good points here and there regarding certain things, but you act like you are defenders of Justice.

Since I'm too lazy to find it, I'm just going to put it in my own words. Spades said something about lack of trust in admins and a strict obligation to the rules that allowed people to troll within the rules. Deliberately pissing people off and getting away scotch free. FORP had this issue a lot and it didn't help that the admin team wasn't experienced enough to deal with the issues, especially with management not putting any faith in their administration. However, FORP was a destined failure. SRP can still pull through if the structure is reworked and thought is put into it.

My opinion on the matter of it is, Let admins do their job, let management do theirs(Which does not mean have admin on a server just because they are up on the CoC). While not every decision is sound, we have a process to investigate the matter. It's called an Unban thread that I rarely saw in use.

Also, this is a thread talking about merging with FG, not a petty fight waving your E-dicks around. If I've figured out anything, it's the oldfags that ruin SRP because they feel entitled and privileged.

It's this simple.
Change is coming hgn.

Trolls will banned, admins wool be removed.
In the next few Weeks things will be changed.
There will a community meeting in the next week or 2 to explain everything.

O advise everyone to stay tuned.
Especially stalker rp lovers.

I feel like for HGN to ACTUALLY change we need to move away from GmodRP and RP in general.

For the sake of the new community, please stop measuring your dicks and seeing how much shit you can throw at each other on these forums. As interesting as it was, that isn't what the forums are for anymore. If you don't have any constructive criticism, and instead care to cause a ruckus and try to rustle the jimmies of the new staff, kindly leave or we will make you.

/me raises hand.

Has Blake showed you guys the setup for the new chain of command planned? It's actually pretty damn good and makes a lot more sense than the shitfest we had before. The level of organization, if it is enforced, will be a VAST improvement to HGN. I think it'll make some of you more optimistic about HGN's future, because for once, it seems they're not doing the exact same thing over again.

In a nutshell, no more running to Exile to get bans/unbans and no more Exile coming down to server level and micromanaging and fucking things up because it's not supposed to be his job and people rely on him too much.

Blake, you gonna put up the chart? Or you still working on it?





... I miss STALKER. Hurry up with it. I miss exploring The Zone with Voyla and lolbanditing with Jules.

All the staff is working on all the new content for HGN.
Including but not limited to: 2 new servers, hierarchy chart, and admin/community staff recruitment processes.


It'll be done  in a week or two so you all will have to see if it works then.

Quote from: Roy on 14-08-2013
It's this simple.
Change is coming hgn.

Trolls will banned, admins wool be removed.
In the next few Weeks things will be changed.
There will a community meeting in the next week or 2 to explain everything.

O advise everyone to stay tuned.
Especially stalker rp lovers.

Honestly, I'm going to say that changes will be a good thing for HGN.
But then again, some people take Garth's approach to change...
http://www.youtube.com/v/1TtGQnyPZ6g

SilverKnight Sith, for the record, if for whatever inexplicable reason reasons you perhaps not fully understand you think, "I should ask Spades to administrate (something)," I advise you ask the opinion of those around you. I assure you with complete confidence that they speak for me. As in they'll mostly say "HOLY FUCK NO ADMIN SPADES." This speaks for me.

I still eagerly await STALKER though. Keep me posted.

EDIT: Apparently wasn't SilverKnight's idea to begin with. Corrections made.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 15-08-2013
Sith, for the record, if for whatever inexplicable reason you think, "I should ask Spades to administrate (something)," I advise you ask the opinion of those around you. I assure you with complete confidence that they speak for me. As in they'll mostly say "HOLY FUCK NO ADMIN SPADES." This speaks for me.

I still eagerly await STALKER though. Keep me posted.

Okay, no one will give you admin. Please stop posting about it on the forums.

Rip spudes nell

Also, Spades, I thought I'd leave this here just to be sure nobody will be swayed to believe the description you've given of yourself.

Quote from: Spades_Neil on 13-08-2013
I am not interested in starting shit. I have no idea who Dark Angel is either.

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Quote from: Spades_Neil on 15-08-2013
GUYS DO FUCKING NOT GIBE ME ADMIN. I SAID THIS FOR 5 POSTS STRAIGHT. I DO NOT FUCKING DESERVE IT. I KNOW U ALL HATE ME BUT HERE ILL SAY IT AGAIN: I DONT WANT ADMIN THANK YOU.
AND NO. I AM TOTALLY NOT EXPECTING TO GET ADMIN.

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Oh god. this new layout is too weird.

Quote from: James Almasy on 15-08-2013
Oh god. this new layout is too weird.

Oh look, forums actually look good for once.

Why do I see tons of ex-admins who have "almost" left HGN before, coming back now that we're having a revamp thingy? Dont want to seem like a dick but it looks to me that badmins are coming back to get some more power fot themselves than they had before.

Also Spades and Jake, u guise need to calm yer tits.

It doesn't matter if they come back at the end of the day I get final call for who gets admin. That's why i'm chief of staff.

I know there had been alot of bad admins in the past. We are working on all the new community rules and admin rules. In a few Weeks we will have a community wide meeting for all those to voice concerns, ideas and comments.


Also any staff found launching anymore personal attacks will be warned then removed. If you have nothing constructive to say don't waste your time posting.

Admins you have been warned.

You all already have admins picked out?

This new layout and colour scheme hurts my eyes.

Quote from: Zen on 16-08-2013
This new layout and colour scheme hurts my eyes.

Yeah. Somehow, i think i made it worse.

I like it

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I like it

It'd be nice if we had some sort of tool to customize it, the way we want to see it.

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I like it

It'd be nice if we had some sort of tool to customize it, the way we want to see it.

It's not finished yet.

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I like it

It'd be nice if we had some sort of tool to customize it, the way we want to see it.

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I like it

It'd be nice if we had some sort of tool to customize it, the way we want to see it.

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